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Originally posted by ivanhoeDead horse - flogged.
http://wwwdev.ushmm.org/newsfeed2/viewstory2.php?storyid=F7A9F68E-87A9-40E6-A721-8B3D02D620A0%20target=
2005-12-18
Xinhua News Agency - CEIS
TEHRAN, Dec. 18 (Xinhua) -- Iran on Sunday rejected the reactions of the European Union (EU) and the United States on President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's recent anti-Israel remarks, terming it as illogical* ...[text shortened]... onal community, the UN including Russia and China, opposed and condemned Ahmadinejad's remarks.
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Originally posted by no1marauderCat's out of the bag now, loudmouth!
Someone should explain to you that the secret to humor is occasionally being funny.
Who said humor was the intent of the post? The post was directed toward your peevish behavior, decreeing yourself judge/jury relative to what topics those on site care or do not care about.
Instead of wasting others' time with your irrelevant proclamations, add something to the conversation, start another one, or--- from what I've read of your diatribes--- say nothing at all.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHSo-er- exactly how have YOU added to the conversation with your "relevant proclamations"?
Cat's out of the bag now, loudmouth!
Who said humor was the intent of the post? The post was directed toward your peevish behavior, decreeing yourself judge/jury relative to what topics those on site care or do not care about.
Instead of wasting others' time with your irrelevant proclamations, add something to the conversation, start another one, or--- from what I've read of your diatribes--- say nothing at all.
Originally posted by ivanhoeThe president did not deny it, he merely said that nobody was yet sure of how many died and scholars are still working on the number.
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2005/sc8576.doc.htm
SECURITY COUNCIL PRESS STATEMENT ON REMARKS BY IRAN ’S PRESIDENT
The following press statement on the remarks by the President of Iran was delivered today by Security Council President Emyr Jones Parry ( United Kingdom):
The members of the Security Council condemn the remarks about Israel ...[text shortened]... e territorial integrity or political independence of any State.
* the italics are mine
I think I know what he means. I have a question for everyone here. How many days did WWII last, starting from the ending of the day of the conquest of Czechoslovakia to the day that Germany surrendered?
Originally posted by abejnoodI understand - when he was translated as saying "They [the Jews] fabricated a legend called the Holocaust", he was actually simply casting doubt on the exact figure?
The president did not deny it, he merely said that nobody was yet sure of how many died and scholars are still working on the number.
You may well be right, of course, but somehow I doubt mistranslation (they're using this on Al-Jazeera's English-language site as well) is the real explanation here.
Originally posted by AmauroteI believe what he was doing was discussing the cases of various Holocaust deniers. His comments were something along the lines of you can blaspheme against God in Western countries, but you can't deny the Holocaust. Oddly enough, in some Western countries that is true; it is labelled criminal "hate speech" to deny the Holocaust but there are no laws against blasphemy in any Western country I know of. I presume you have the Al Jazeera link; read it in context. Whether there should be laws against Holocaust deniers and/or blasphemy is a another whole kettle of fish.
I understand - when he was translated as saying "They [the Jews] fabricated a legend called the Holocaust", he was actually simply casting doubt on the exact figure?
You may well be right, of course, but somehow I doubt mistranslation (they're using this on Al-Jazeera's English-language site as well) is the real explanation here.
Originally posted by SiskinLearn something new every day, though it doesn't appear to have been used since 1977 while some Holocaust deniers have been prosecuted since then, so as a legal matter the Iranian President is probably still correct.
It's illegal in the UK, but only against the tenets of the Church of England
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3753408.stm
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Originally posted by abejnoodThe war started with the invasion of Poland in Sept. 1939 unless you consider the invasion of China by Japan in July in 1937 as some historians do as the start of WWII. It ended on Sept 1945 with the surrender of Japan. Germany surrendered two months earlier.
The president did not deny it, he merely said that nobody was yet sure of how many died and scholars are still working on the number.
I think I know what he means. I have a question for everyone here. How many days did WWII last, starting from the ending of the day of the conquest of Czechoslovakia to the day that Germany surrendered?
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Originally posted by abejnoodHow many days?
The president did not deny it, he merely said that nobody was yet sure of how many died and scholars are still working on the number.
I think I know what he means. I have a question for everyone here. How many days did WWII last, starting from the ending of the day of the conquest of Czechoslovakia to the day that Germany surrendered?
Good question, the answer will depend on whos "history' you read.
Germanys defeat (6/45) was not the end of WWII for the USA.
When the Japenese formally surrendered in Sept. 1945 that would be the end of it for the USA I believe
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What is considered the 1st day of WWII?
Is it when Germany went after Poland? Many would say yes, but only 2 Countries were involved at that point .. not "the World"
A lot of Americans might say WWII started on the day the Japenese attacked Pearl Harbor and ended the day we dropped the big one on them.
This is just one Americans point of view, narrow and bigoted of course being as I am ... an American.
I'd be interested to hear from other Countries.
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I believe the Czechs would say that the war began when the Germans entered the Sudetenland. The Munich Agreement in 1938 when Neville Chamberlain proclaimed that he had achieved "Peace in our time!" could be seen as the beginning of WWII as this was were the Germans got all those pretty tanks they used to blitz Poland, the low lands and France.
From Wikipedia
Because Czechoslovakia was not invited to the conference, the Munich Agreement is commonly called the Munich Dictate by the Czechs. The phrase Munich betrayal is also frequently used, especially because of the military alliances between Czechoslovakia and France and between France and Britain, that were not taken into account.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement
Originally posted by CliffLandinSince the Czechs opted not to fight, you can hardly call the bloodless seizure of the Sudetenland a "war".
I believe the Czechs would say that the war began when the Germans entered the Sudetenland. The Munich Agreement in 1938 when Neville Chamberlain proclaimed that he had achieved "Peace in our time!" could be seen as the beginning of WWII as this was were the Germans got all those pretty tanks they used to blitz Poland, the low lands and France.
Fro ...[text shortened]... Britain, that were not taken into account.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement[/b]
Originally posted by no1marauderIt is quite possible that you're right, marauder, the first part of the quote is admittedly ambiguous, but while confessing my ignorance of Farsi and its legion of nuances, I think it's significant that Al Jazeera (who presumably have few difficulties translating Middle Eastern languages into English) themselves begin their editorial lead with the emphatic "Last week, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called the Holocaust a myth" and on the 14th of December their article began with the given that he was repeating his denial of the Holocaust. It may be that the President is simply falling victim to his own hyperbole and does not in fact mean what he says when he says it, but I'd say he's far too astute a politician not to understand how the use of this kind of language resonates.
I believe what he was doing was discussing the cases of various Holocaust deniers. His comments were something along the lines of you can blaspheme against God in Western countries, but you can't deny the Holocaust. Oddly enough, in some Western countries that is true; it is labelled criminal "hate speech" to deny the Holocaust but there are no laws agai ...[text shortened]... should be laws against Holocaust deniers and/or blasphemy is a another whole kettle of fish.