@Rajk999 saidTHAT is true but WE live here and have to deal with OUR consequences.
One a world scale we all have far bigger issues than Trump.
Open your eyes.
Trump is screwing up humans all over the planet, like killing USAID, now the death toll to that is some third of a MILLION and rising every day due to starvation and lack of meds formerly given.
And that was not JUST a humanitarian gesture, keeping folks safe from disease means if they come to the US they won't spread cholera or Ebola or a hundred other diseases.
But the goodwill generated is incalculable. No more now.
Those deaths are 100% on the hands of Trump.
Getting a bit off subject here, which is fine, but to get back to it; the US government (or parts thereof) is claiming total mission success, others say otherwise, it's like two people wearing blindfolds tossing a coin and one saying 'It's tails, definitely tails' and the other saying 'it's heads, no doubt about it.' Neither is obviously correct in their assertion, best then not to make false claims, don't we think? Wishful thinking on either side is bad politics.
One day maybe the day will dawn when the age of the ayatollahs and their nasty oppressive, murderous regimes will be history, nobody wants that more than the Iranian people (let's not forget them) but for now the world is stuck with it, and where this all goes from here is, well, anyone's guess, and at the moment, that's all we're doing.
@Indonesia-Phil saidYep, stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Getting a bit off subject here, which is fine, but to get back to it; the US government (or parts thereof) is claiming total mission success, others say otherwise, it's like two people wearing blindfolds tossing a coin and one saying 'It's tails, definitely tails' and the other saying 'it's heads, no doubt about it.' Neither is obviously correct in their assertion, be ...[text shortened]... d where this all goes from here is, well, anyone's guess, and at the moment, that's all we're doing.
@sonhouse saidI told you that those bunker buster bombs could not take out a whole mountain, though little more than common sense was needed for that.
I knew that as soon as Trump said 'total success'. He was lying as usual.
You are a sucker for propaganda.
@Metal-Brain saidYou should read my posts a bit more carefully. I SAID TRUMP claimed TOTAL destruction, UTTER victory.
I told you that those bunker buster bombs could not take out a whole mountain, though little more than common sense was needed for that.
You are a sucker for propaganda.
I said he LIED because NOBODY can tell the level of success 5 minutes after the planes hit international waters.
BESIDES that, Trump is an IDIOT.
BLARING out his plans, maybe I will bomb Iran, maybe I won't, I don't know and nobody ELSE knows.
Turns out IRANIANS knew.
DOZENS of trucks seen quite clearly in sat photos hauling out near 900 pounds of highly enriched Uranium and no doubt hundreds of centrifuges as well and off they go to sites unknown and they can RIGHT now build at least a DIRTY bomb, which is just ordinance with added uranium that can make a target hit uninhabitable because of extreme radiation for DECADES.
And they clearly have centrifuges now and a BUNCH of them pulled off those Trucks. It only takes ONE truck to carry out 900 pounds of Uranium maybe two or three even. But DOZENS were there.
They could haul out thousands of centrifuges and NO DOUBT DID.
100% because of the UTTER STUPIDITY of Trump BLEATING out our plans that BTW were FIFTEEN years in the planning but that OTHER idiot Hegseth goes TRUMP DIRECTED the bombing run, the most COMPLEX BOMBING RUN in HUMAN HISTORY.
What an utter ASSSSHOLE. Trump didn't DIRECT anything, he goes ah, so this is the plane? GO. Then the REAL experts took over and got the planes in and out with all the pilots safe but not because of the incredible plan but because ISRAEL had destroyed Iran's capability to stop those planes. Any OTHER nuclear country WOULD have air defenses that would have made it a LOT harder to get in and get out without a fight.
I can't believe people could be THAT DUMB as to fall for those RIDICULOUS statements.
@sonhouse saidOf course he lied. I told you that!
You should read my posts a bit more carefully. I SAID TRUMP claimed TOTAL destruction, UTTER victory.
I said he LIED because NOBODY can tell the level of success 5 minutes after the planes hit international waters.
BESIDES that, Trump is an IDIOT.
BLARING out his plans, maybe I will bomb Iran, maybe I won't, I don't know and nobody ELSE knows.
Turns out IRANIANS ...[text shortened]... ut a fight.
I can't believe people could be THAT DUMB as to fall for those RIDICULOUS statements.
Do you have memory problems?
@Metal-Brain saidNo, he lied about 30 THOUSAND times in Trump V1 and is on his way to surpass that goal this time,
Of course he lied. I told you that!
Do you have memory problems?
Don't know where you are coming from here, I NEVER said he doesn't lie.
We both see that he lies, not exactly rocket science here.
AND his poles are going even deeper underground.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls-2090424
Just one of many separate polls, this one showing Trump FOURTEEN points down,
@sonhouse saidOf course. He alienated his republican base.
No, he lied about 30 THOUSAND times in Trump V1 and is on his way to surpass that goal this time,
Don't know where you are coming from here, I NEVER said he doesn't lie.
We both see that he lies, not exactly rocket science here.
AND his poles are going even deeper underground.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls-2090424
Just one of many separate polls, this one showing Trump FOURTEEN points down,
The same day he said it was not about regime change he posted on truth social (the irony) that he wanted regime change, then he said it wasn't again.
Trump knows he did not set back their nuclear enrichment by years. That is why he is willing to ease sanctions now. He knows he did not "obliterate" them. He is a lying sack of dung.
He helped Israel kill Iranian nuclear scientists. That is terrorism and if you had a lick of respect for science you would have condemned that. Israel is a terrorist state. Iran is not.
From the link below:
"Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the British during World War II. It initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.[22] Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)
sh76 is offended that I tell the truth about Zionists being like Nazis. Because he is a Jew and a Zionist. He cannot handle the truth. Can you?
@Metal-Brain saidNot interested in ancient history. More worried about the fact Trump has now been given even more power by the corrupt rightwingers on SCOTUS.
Of course. He alienated his republican base.
The same day he said it was not about regime change he posted on truth social (the irony) that he wanted regime change, then he said it wasn't again.
Trump knows he did not set back their nuclear enrichment by years. That is why he is willing to ease sanctions now. He knows he did not "obliterate" them. He is a lying sack ...[text shortened]... t Zionists being like Nazis. Because he is a Jew and a Zionist. He cannot handle the truth. Can you?
@sonhouse saidThe British helped them move to Palestine and when they limited migration LEHI killed British people. INGRATES!
Not interested in ancient history. More worried about the fact Trump has now been given even more power by the corrupt rightwingers on SCOTUS.
@Metal-Brain saidI don't think you heard me. King Trump is a LOT more of a problem than Gaza.
The British helped them move to Palestine and when they limited migration LEHI killed British people. INGRATES!