@Soothfast saidIf you try that in the USA it will likely yield very little results.
I think an assault weapons ban, and very tight restrictions on gun ownership in general, would have a very real chance of ameliorating gun violence in the US. This optimism is based on the experience of Australia over the past generation, when it implemented a nationwide gun buy-back program.
https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback
[quote][b]Australia c ...[text shortened]... firearm except for some kinds of handguns and hunting rifles, which each have their legitimate uses.
The demographics in Australia compared to the USA is completely different. Gun violence is highest among the black community in the US, in fact several times more than national average. It is particularly worse among urban blacks. In Chicago there are draconian gun laws and still the gun crimes are among the highest in the country.
Blacks comprise about 1.5% of the Australian population, and about 14% of the US population. States with a low black population have the least gun crimes, such as Maine, Connecticut, Wyoming etc, and states with high black urban population is riddled with crime despite gun law in effect.
The first step in fixing problems like this is to truthfully assess the causes of the crime. So far people are just fooling themselves because they are afraid to be referred to as racist. Me? IDGAF.
@sonhouse saidYes, abandoned oil refinery etc. Only natural gas is being exported. It yields some forex. Right now Guyana is the place to be as their oil industry is taking off.
@Rajk999
All true. So is there an oil industry now? or are the pumps abandoned? I saw there is a natural gas industry, any help for your economy? Like to common folk?
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@sonhouse saidAR15's are not assault rifles. That's not what the "A" stands for.
@Rajk999
Not securing the gun. He gave that damned assault rifle to the kid for fuuking CHRISTMAS. About as stupid a thing as any parent can do. Here kid, here is your own assault rifle, I know you are only 13 but you are a MAN now........
Assault rifles are automatic, whereas AR15's are semi-automatic.
@sonhouse saidYou're not making sense. The dad bought the kid the gun. He didn't buy the gun because he was interested in seeing how many people his son could kill in 10 seconds...
@uzless
I'm saying NOBODY needs AR 15's or assault rifles. How many shots does a real hunter need to take down a deer? Does anyone think an AR 15 is going to help hunting?
No, because the asssholes who buy them are way more interested in how many people they can kill in ten seconds.
@uzless
You didn't get the part where I was saying IN GENERAL who the HELL needs an AR15? For what purpose? Do you need to fire 49 rounds to kill a deer or a rabbit?
What the hell use is an AR15 for home defense? There are better weapons for that.
@uzless saidThe father bought the disturbed kid a gun. The kid was being bullied in school, and his friends referred to him as gay. He apparently made death threats online. The father knew all this. Then bought the gun. There is something sadly wrong with the father. You dont buy weapons for teens going through problems in school.
You're not making sense. The dad bought the kid the gun. He didn't buy the gun because he was interested in seeing how many people his son could kill in 10 seconds...
@Rajk999
Yep, that seems clear enough. The only question left is how long will daddy be out of jail? Or how long will it before he IS in jail. And what about mommy?
She allegedly called or texted the school before he started shooting so does she have culpability?
@sonhouse saidWell, they are both in trouble. The rest of America's parents will do well to learn from all this and stop being irresponsible parents.
@Rajk999
Yep, that seems clear enough. The only question left is how long will daddy be out of jail? Or how long will it before he IS in jail. And what about mommy?
She allegedly called or texted the school before he started shooting so does she have culpability?
@sonhouse saidGee, what about some aunts and uncles and second cousins?
@Rajk999
Yep, that seems clear enough. The only question left is how long will daddy be out of jail? Or how long will it before he IS in jail. And what about mommy?
She allegedly called or texted the school before he started shooting so does she have culpability?
@Rajk999 saidWhat is the source of such information? Some of seems clearly wrong:
The father bought the disturbed kid a gun. The kid was being bullied in school, and his friends referred to him as gay. He apparently made death threats online. The father knew all this. Then bought the gun. There is something sadly wrong with the father. You dont buy weapons for teens going through problems in school.
"Following the tips from Discord users, authorities went to the Grays’ residence and spoke to both Colt, who was then 13 and a student at Jefferson Middle School in Georgia, and his father, Colin, according to the report. Colin denied knowing what Discord was, and Colt said he had deactivated his Discord account months prior. Discord is a free messaging app, predominantly used in the gaming community.
“Colt expressed concern that someone is accusing him of threatening to shoot up a school, stating that he would never say such a thing, even in a joking manner,” the report says. “Colt stated he stopped using Discord because too many people kept hacking his account and he was afraid someone would use his information for nefarious purposes.”
The tip the FBI received about the Discord account said it had been created in April 2023 — after Colt said he deleted his account. Screenshots of the Discord account showed that the username was in Russian and that the translation of the Russian letters spelled out the name Lanza. Authorities thought this referred to Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old who committed the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., in December 2012.
“Due to the inconsistent nature of the information received by the FBI, the allegation that Colt or Colin is the user behind the Discord account that made the threat cannot be substantiated,” the report concluded. “This case will be exceptionally cleared.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/colin-gray-colt-gray-appear-in-court-as-father-and-son-face-charges-in-killing-of-4-at-apalachee-high-school/ar-AA1q7JCf?ocid=BingNewsSerp
So there was insufficient evidence he made threats online, he denied it and his father believed him. That makes the father an accessory to murder?