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@no1marauder said
The fact of the matter is gun violence in the US has sharply fallen in the last 30 years
That doesn't seem correct.

https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/6-charts-show-rise-guns-us-people-dying-rcna30537

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/ft_23-04-20_gundeathsupdate_2-png/

Most sources say the exact opposite.

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@vivify said
Japan's lower gun violence is consistent with other nations with tight gun control, like Singapore or the U.K.

And I was only suggesting banning the sale of assault weapons to people under 21, not all guns. Though that would help too.
You are sadly mistaken. Low gun violence in the countries you mention like Japan and Singapore etc has absolutely nothing to do with tight gun control. Imagine if there was easy access to guns and assault weapons, I am certain people in these countries would not suddenly go out, buy up weapons and start robbing and shooting people.

Here is the list of the 10 most dangerous countries with the highest homicide rate per 100,000 :

1. Jamaica 53.3
2 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 40.4
3Trinidad and Tobago 39.5
4. Saint Lucia36.7
5. Honduras 35.1
6. South Africa 34.0
7. Bahamas 31.2
8. St Kitts and Nevis 29.4
9. Belize 27.9
10. Equador 27.0

All these countries have tight gun control. Nobody in these countries can simply go out and buy guns. Yet all these murders are with guns.

Take a wild guess what all these countries have in common. Check the full list and see who are the next 10.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/most-dangerous-countries-in-the-world/

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@vivify
Besides that, he threw in making abortion illegal, leading to illegal abortions which results in a lot of dead women but in his zeal he doesn't give a rats ass about dead women.


@Mott-The-Hoople
The idea is more people would be alive if for instance a simple change of age limit to 21 where an 18 yo cannot legally buy a weapon as it happened before.

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@Rajk999
Superficial or not, less people would die which is the point.
Hey, I know things are fuuked up her and I don't think New Zealand is totally free of asssholes either.

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@Rajk999 said
Low gun violence in the countries you mention like Japan and Singapore etc has absolutely nothing to do with tight gun control.
The first country you mentioned was Jamaica:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/25/world/americas/one-handgun-9-murders-how-american-firearms-cause-carnage-abroad.html

American firearms are pouring into neighboring countries and igniting record violence, in part because of federal and state restrictions that make it difficult, or sometimes nearly impossible, to track the weapons and interrupt smuggling networks.

Loose U.S. gun laws make it easy to smuggle them out of the country into other ones, like Jamaica, due to laws not requiring background checks or guns to be registered. According to the article, there is no debate among experts and politicians that guns are the problem in Jamaica.

Take a wild guess what all these countries have in common.

Almost all of them are victims of European colonialism.

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@vivify said
The first country you mentioned was Jamaica:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/25/world/americas/one-handgun-9-murders-how-american-firearms-cause-carnage-abroad.html

[quote]American firearms are pouring into neighboring countries and igniting record violence, in part because of federal and state restrictions that make it difficult, or sometimes nearly impossible, to track ...[text shortened]... t all these countries have in common.[/b]

Almost all of them are victims of European colonialism.
LMFAO...you pitiful fool

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@vivify said
The first country you mentioned was Jamaica:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/25/world/americas/one-handgun-9-murders-how-american-firearms-cause-carnage-abroad.html

[quote]American firearms are pouring into neighboring countries and igniting record violence, in part because of federal and state restrictions that make it difficult, or sometimes nearly impossible, to track ...[text shortened]... t all these countries have in common.[/b]

Almost all of them are victims of European colonialism.
Great Britain had about 130 colonies all over the world. Some of these were Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and a host of other successful prosperous countries who are productive, low crime, former colonies.

Clearly the fact that a country was once a colony of the British or even Spanish or Dutch, is not a reason for their high crime rate and other social issues.

From your prior comments you are one of those people who lack the ability to firmly nail down the core reasons why problems exist in some societies.

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@sonhouse said
@Rajk999
Superficial or not, less people would die which is the point.
Hey, I know things are fuuked up her and I don't think New Zealand is totally free of asssholes either.
New Zealand has an extremely low crime rate and people are allowed to buy guns with the appropriate licence.

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@Rajk999 said
Great Britain had about 130 colonies all over the world. Some of these were Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and a host of other successful prosperous countries who are productive, low crime, former colonies.

Clearly the fact that a country was once a colony of the British or even Spanish or Dutch, is not a reason for their high crime rate and other social issues.

Fr ...[text shortened]... ople who lack the ability to firmly nail down the core reasons why problems exist in some societies.
Are whites indigenous to the nations you mentioned? No. You know why? Those whites weren't colonized, they *were* the colonizers.

Your ignorance is in full display.


@vivify said
Are whites indigenous to the nations you mentioned? No. You know why? Those whites weren't colonized, they *were* the colonizers.

Your ignorance is in full display.
You lost me somewhere. Colonization is something good, in case you do not know the truth. Colonization dragged primitive societies kicking and screaming, in to the 20 century, and forced on them order, production, technology and hard work which is why some colonized societies are doing well. Unfortunately there is a class of people who do not like to work. They rather steal and rob and kill to get what they want, so they do not like colonizers.

So colonization is what blacks [and other stupid people], use as an excuse for their backward lifestyle, instead of blaming themselves.

Now explain how nonsense you wrote is relevant ... .... whites weren't colonized, they *were* the colonizers.

In any case, nobody get up in the morning in Jamaica or Trinidad, pick up their illegal Ak47, and shoots up the local liquor store, because the British were here 70 yrs ago .... you damn fool. Stop talking nonsense.


@vivify said
But some guns can be used to kill a much higher number of people in a shorter time than other guns. Those types of guns should have more restrictions.
So can common household items.

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@Rajk999
You are lucky to live in such a place. What helps I think is the isolated nature of your country and small population.

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@sonhouse said
@Rajk999
You are lucky to live in such a place. What helps I think is the isolated nature of your country and small population.
Lucky? We have the 3rd highest murder rate in the world.
Apparently the British are to blame.
I never knew that.

Well, thanks to vivify, Im going to get up tomorrow morning and walk down to the nearest drug/gang hole and tell those black guys to go shoot the British.

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@Rajk999 said
You lost me somewhere. Colonization is something good, in case you do not know the truth. Colonization dragged primitive societies kicking and screaming, in to the 20 century, and forced on them order, production, technology and hard work which is why some colonized societies are doing well.
You claimed majority-white nations like Australia and Canada are "doing well" because of colonization. Yes, it turned out great for the colonizers who remained in those countries.

The indigenous people suffered severe brutality and theft of their land and resources.

They rather steal and rob and kill to get what they want, so they do not like colonizers.

You realize that's exactly what colonizers did to those people, right? So killing, robbing and stealing is okay for white colonizers....

Remember when I pointed out that you always move goalposts to attack non-whites each time you lose an argument? Here we go again. As fun as it is to keep dunking on you about this issue, I'm not going to respond to any more of your off-topic racism.