@KellyJay
Really? you want to go there? you figure it is just fine a 13 yo kid gets an assault rifle as a present? 3000 dollar present for a kid who posted death threats as a 13 yo and still gets an assault rifle?
So tell me, just what is the use for an assault rifle for civilians? Hunting?
You are such a poor hunter you need to fire 34 bullets to kill a rabbit or a deer?
The ONLY reason you get an assault rifle is to kill PEOPLE. That is the bottom line and just simple stuff like raising the age of legal ownership to 21 keeps those weapons out of the hands of teenagers who are the most likely to do school shootings.
NOBODY BUT NOBODY is say we should make gun ownership illegal but there have to be common sense rules, like forget getting a fuuuking AR15 NOBODY needs them to defend your home or go hunting.
And raising the age of ownership to 21. Seems simple enough.
The rifle associations would have it fine for anyone to get anything, maybe a bazooka launcher? Fine, live hand grenades? Sure, why not.
There has to be a limit as to civilians getting literal military weapons.
@KellyJay saidWho is "we"? Speak for yourself.
I think this is a difficult subject, mainly because we want justice and someone to blame, and it doesn't seem enough only to charge the 14-year-old, because the crime is so horrific. That may be true we all "feel" that way, but that doesn't make it right, or lawful.
I'm fine if only the 14yr old gets convicted. But there are times, such as the Crumbly case, where the parents are liable.
@sonhouse saidDeath threats are something to take seriously with or without guns, guns don't have to be the weapons of choice.
@KellyJay
Really? you want to go there? you figure it is just fine a 13 yo kid gets an assault rifle as a present? 3000 dollar present for a kid who posted death threats as a 13 yo and still gets an assault rifle?
So tell me, just what is the use for an assault rifle for civilians? Hunting?
You are such a poor hunter you need to fire 34 bullets to kill a rabbit or a deer? ...[text shortened]... grenades? Sure, why not.
There has to be a limit as to civilians getting literal military weapons.
Legal activity are legal because if you are going to behave legally there is no danger to society being done with intent. If you are going to act against legal activities because they can be perverted into illegal activity shouldn't the focus remain on the illegal not the legal?
@KellyJay saidThis is an easy subject. It only gets difficult if the person is emotionally attached to the details.
I think this is a difficult subject, mainly because we want justice and someone to blame, and it doesn't seem enough only to charge the 14-year-old, because the crime is so horrific. That may be true we all "feel" that way, but that doesn't make it right, or lawful.
@vivify saidMany cases can end one way and get turned over on appeal, sticking with the one under discussion.
Who is "we"? Speak for yourself.
I'm fine if only the 14yr old gets convicted. But there are times, such as the Crumbly case, where the parents are liable.
@KellyJay
If an assault rifle can be bought at a garage sale how many of those buyers do you think are criminals with bad intent? And gangs and cartel soldiers. What the HELL are you thinking? They were made legal by major lobbying by the NRA. I guess you figure nothing wrong with that either?
@Rajk999 saidHas there been a case anywhere in the world where a parent was convicted of murder because their minor child committed one?
Your law, your law-makers and most of your society are stupid people, who are dishonest, manipulative, greedy and irresponsible. Your society is designed to encourage criminal activity. There is no accountability, no sense of responsibility for ones actions or the actions of their children. Your society is shallow and materialistic and your focus is money either getting it ...[text shortened]... of murder, there is some accountability and liability.
Anyone who says otherwise are damn fools.
Such a principle is abhorrent to the idea of a limited government which respects the rights of individuals. Penal sanctions should be limited to those who commit acts that directly harm others; one shouldn't be punished for what others did.
@sonhouse saidLegal activity can be perverted with evil intent, actually evil is always a perversion of what is good. So when something is good, and its activities while lawfully done have nothing to do with harm towards anyone, why is it that the good gets blamed for those people who take advantage and pervert what is good into something evil?
@KellyJay
If an assault rifle can be bought at a garage sale how many of those buyers do you think are criminals with bad intent? And gangs and cartel soldiers. What the HELL are you thinking? They were made legal by major lobbying by the NRA. I guess you figure nothing wrong with that either?
@KellyJay
What the FUK is wrong with you? Tell me mr great Christian, how many assault rifles do you own? Is that the problem, you don't want government laws to restrict how many AR15's and 50 MM machine guns you can own? Maybe a Gatlin gun or two?
@sonhouse saidOwning an AR15 is legal and if the owners act legally who is in danger of being killed by one? You are blaming the weapon instead of coming down hard on the person with evil intent who would kill or harm others with the weapon. The guns themselves are not evil, it is the people who would use them that way, if you are going to get pissed off about that, go after the criminals and those that set them free to harm again at least you'd be blaming the root cause and not the innocent.
@KellyJay
What the FUK is wrong with you? Tell me mr great Christian, how many assault rifles do you own? Is that the problem, you don't want government laws to restrict how many AR15's and 50 MM machine guns you can own?
@Rajk999 saidThanks for your opinion.
Your law, your law-makers and most of your society are stupid people, who are dishonest, manipulative, greedy and irresponsible. Your society is designed to encourage criminal activity. There is no accountability, no sense of responsibility for ones actions or the actions of their children. Your society is shallow and materialistic and your focus is money either getting it ...[text shortened]... of murder, there is some accountability and liability.
Anyone who says otherwise are damn fools.
@sonhouse saidA clear case of irresponsible parenting.
@KellyJay
Really? you want to go there? you figure it is just fine a 13 yo kid gets an assault rifle as a present? 3000 dollar present for a kid who posted death threats as a 13 yo and still gets an assault rifle?
So tell me, just what is the use for an assault rifle for civilians? Hunting?
You are such a poor hunter you need to fire 34 bullets to kill a rabbit or a deer? ...[text shortened]... grenades? Sure, why not.
There has to be a limit as to civilians getting literal military weapons.
@KellyJay
So you are ok with an 18 yo whom you know full well has a not fully developed brain to buy an assault rifle for the express purpose of killing school children?
How many such episodes like the one in Georgia does it take for you to realize we have to get those weapons out of the hands of such kids? AT LEAST?