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@Rajk999
Right, OF COURSE, but what if he was given a small 38? How many kids could he hill in 5 seconds with THAT weapon compared to the AR15 shooting out hundreds of rounds a minute? You don't even have to aim, just spray into a crowd and there will be many dead people.
What the HELL is wrong with simply raising the age of ownership to 21?
Tell me THAT.
And don't give me that old tale GUNS don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people crap.
Remember back 200 years ago when a rifle was ONE bulltet per what, 2 minutes max? How many school children got killed back then with flintlocks?
@no1marauder saidI dont know if anyone is suggesting that the parents be charged with murder. There are many other options that make the parents culpable in this situation. Also this is not a simple case of 'others' doing the act. This is a child that is under your care as a parent. Irresponsible parenting that leads to gun possession and murder must have serious consequences. If not, then vigilante justice is the result. Im pretty sure in my area that family would already be all dead.
Has there been a case anywhere in the world where a parent was convicted of murder because their minor child committed one?
Such a principle is abhorrent to the idea of a limited government which respects the rights of individuals. Penal sanctions should be limited to those who commit acts that directly harm others; one shouldn't be punished for what others did.
@sonhouse saidI wouldn't want a military veteran to buy a gun with the express purpose of killing school children, what would the person being 18 years old change?
@KellyJay
So you are ok with an 18 yo whom you know full well has a not fully developed brain to buy an assault rifle for the express purpose of killing school children?
How many such episodes like the one in Georgia does it take for you to realize we have to get those weapons out of the hands of such kids? AT LEAST?
@shavixmir saidOh, I added conclusions based on your questions, okay.
You added conclusions, based on my questions and linked those conclusions to me.
And that is not acceptable in a debate.
@KellyJay saidWhy don’t you have 9 year olds piloting planes?
I wouldn't want a military veteran to buy a gun with the express purpose of killing school children, what would the person being 18 years old change?
The brain is “mature” at 27.
Why would you have younger people doing things they’re not capable of comprehending?
Why 21 for booze and never for LSD?
You shouldn’t be selliny guns to anybody.
Wake up and smell the bloody coffee.
@KellyJay
Did you have children? I suppose you did, being a self righteous Christian, you didn't notice an 18 yo is not fully developed?
You can't see the difference between the mental development of an 18 yo Vs a 21 YO?
Have you ever looked into just who is doing the killing of school children?
How often is it a military veteran? Vs some deranged teenager either getting dads rifle of buying one legally and then mowing down children.
What the HELL is wrong with you thinking it is a fuuking VETERAN who shoots school children?
@sonhouse saidYou couched your question as the person buying for the express purpose of killing children which from that point on means their age, mental awareness, military status, or anything else is a moot point. You make connections and accusations that are not a given, and you do that with so many different things it is sad.
@KellyJay
Did you have children? I suppose you did, being a self righteous Christian, you didn't notice an 18 yo is not fully developed?
You can't see the difference between the mental development of an 18 yo Vs a 21 YO?
Have you ever looked into just who is doing the killing of school children?
How often is it a military veteran? Vs some deranged teenager either gettin ...[text shortened]... ldren.
What the HELL is wrong with you thinking it is a fuuking VETERAN who shoots school children?
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@sonhouse saidThe ones pulling the trigger, are the ones I blame. I also could blame anyone who acted to help that type of crime or any other if they knew that was going to happen or very likely going to happen.
@KellyJay
IT IS SAD? Are you fuuking kidding. You refuse to even answer who it is killing school children.
Now, if you are still jumping up and down about your red flag laws, how about charging Biden and Harris for letting murderers and rapists into the country even after they were flagged for being those types of criminals? Why not blame left-wing politicians for refusing to hire protection for schools, or calling their cities sanctuary so that criminals who commit crimes are not immediately jailed, or Kicked out of the country?
Hypocrite.
@KellyJay saidThe father of this 14 yr old is in big trouble. He knew that the son was disturbed and was on the verge of violence. In a case like that, it would have been best to move all weapons out of the house. Many police stations store weapons for firearm users. The fool did the opposite and placed a weapon in the hands of a disturbed bullied youth.
The ones pulling the trigger, are the ones I blame. I also could blame anyone who acted to help that type of crime or any other if they knew that was going to happen or very likely going to happen.
Now, if you are still jumping up and down about your red flag laws, how about charging Biden and Harris for letting in murderers and rapists even after they were flagged for b ...[text shortened]... criminals who commit crimes are not immediately jailed, or Kicked out of the country?
Hypocrite.
@Rajk999 saidNot realizing how disturbed his son was, is now a crime? If that doesn't bother anyone it should, your fate is no longer what you do, but what someone else does could mean you are guilty if someone else thinks you should have known better, after the fact.
The father of this 14 yr old is in big trouble. He knew that the son was disturbed and was on the verge of violence. In a case like that, it would have been best to move all weapons out of the house. Many police stations store weapons for firearm users. The fool did the opposite and placed a weapon in the hands of a disturbed bullied youth.
@KellyJay saidNo, no, no. This is not someone. This is a child in your care. It is incredible to me how so many people have disconnected themselves from their children. You are doing it. Parents have a responsibility to bring up their children a certain way. Clearly it is your culture at fault but the law still places blame on the parents for negligence.
Not realizing how disturbed his son was, is now a crime? If that doesn't bother anyone it should, your fate is no longer what you do, but what someone else does could mean you are guilty if someone else thinks you should have known better, after the fact.
In this case the father knew that the kids in school were bullying the son and calling him gay and laughing at him. The kid threatened violence online after and it is subsequent to all this that the father bought the assault rifle for the son.
That man is in big trouble.
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@Rajk999 saidA child you raised from birth you are more likely to give the benefit of doubt to over looking somethings in the hopes that they are not what you see. People do that with children and politicians all the time!
No, no, no. This is not someone. This is a child in your care. It is incredible to me how so many people have disconnected themselves from their children. You are doing it. Parents have a responsibility to bring up their children a certain way. Clearly it is your culture at fault but the law still places blame on the parents for negligence.
In this case the father ...[text shortened]... ent to all this that the father bought the assault rifle for the son.
That man is in big trouble.
