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Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
Medicare tax payment is not mandatory for all!
By that logic, no tax levied on earnings is mandatory.

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Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
When ACA was passed they called the mandate a "penalty" because a tax has to be voted on. Congress is the only way a tax can be levied. Congress never authorized that "tax".

The SCOTUS changed the wording to tax AFTER aca had passed. It is unconstitutional on those grounds alone. Read the entire article...don't just cherry pick...makes you look inferior

BTW...paying subsidies in states that didn't expand Medicare is also illegal.
Maybe when you get to the SCOTUS, you can correct them but they have already ruled against both the arguments you made in this post.

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Originally posted by @no1marauder
Maybe when you get to the SCOTUS, you can correct them but they have already ruled against both the arguments you made in this post.
smarting are you... LOL

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Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
The SCOTUS changed the wording to tax AFTER aca had passed. It is unconstitutional on those grounds alone.
"It is unconstitutional on those grounds alone."

Not according to the Supreme Court.

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Originally posted by @vivify
"It is unconstitutional on those grounds alone."

Not according to the Supreme Court.
just hasn't went before them yet...

https://www.newsmax.com/Finance/Elias/ACA-Obamacare-unconstitutional-court/2013/12/20/id/542977/


Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
just hasn't went before them yet...

https://www.newsmax.com/Finance/Elias/ACA-Obamacare-unconstitutional-court/2013/12/20/id/542977/
Try to use more recent links.

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Originally posted by @eladar
So you think that Obama was wrong when he claimed the mandate was required for Obama Care to work.
I have no idea. Finding out what motivates people is a mystery to me.

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Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
smarting are you... LOL
I don't know if you're aware of this mott, but no1marauder is a pretty sharp lawyer, and knows at least as much about this as you do. Sometimes, even more! 😲

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Originally posted by @mchill
I have no idea. Finding out what motivates people is a mystery to me.
Oh, I thought you said Obama Care didn't need the whip we call the mandate.


Originally posted by @eladar
Oh, I thought you said Obama Care didn't need the whip we call the mandate.
Sorry, but you thought wrong.

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Originally posted by @mchill
Sorry, but you thought wrong.
So now you think Obama Care does need the mandate so now that the mandate is gone so is obama care.


Originally posted by @eladar
So now you think Obama Care does need the mandate so now that the mandate is gone so is obama care.
Yes...for all intents and purposes ACA is being phased out. The liberals here think because it doesn't happen in one fell swoop it isn't, but it is. They often are detached from reality.

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Originally posted by @no1marauder
I never thought the individual mandate was desirable or necessary and I suspect that the ACA can survive its demise if the Trump administration stops trying to sabotage it by other means.
Not only was it a bad idea, it was a horrible idea having the criminal organization, known as the IRS, in control of it considering they just lost a law suit to conservatives regarding targeting them come tax time.

Just imagine not being able to get that bypass surgery cuz of their politics.

It's just too bad that the court case proceedings are sealed. Apparently those in the IRS fear for their lives if people find out just how corrupt they are.


Originally posted by @whodey
Not only was it a bad idea, it was a horrible idea having the criminal organization, known as the IRS, in control of it considering they just lost a law suit to conservatives regarding targeting them come tax time.

Just imagine not being able to get that bypass surgery cuz of their politics.

It's just too bad that the court case proceedings are sealed. Apparently those in the IRS fear for their lives if people find out just how corrupt they are.
Your post doesn't make any sense, but that is typical. Congress imposed a tax; who else BUT the IRS was supposed to enforce it? And how, pray tell, could enforcing the mandate have anything to do with "not get[ting] that bypass surgery"?


Originally posted by @no1marauder
Your post doesn't make any sense, but that is typical. Congress imposed a tax; who else BUT the IRS was supposed to enforce it? And how, pray tell, could enforcing the mandate have anything to do with "not get[ting] that bypass surgery"?
WRONG...congress did not impose a tax, the ACA law included a penalty, not a tax. SCOTUS rewrote (illegally) the law.

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