@Suzianne saidThis is all Trump's opinion? So Musk finds billions in waste, see example link, and you call it Trump Opinion??
This is all Trump's opinion.
Why don't you ever tell us what you really think? Because you don't.
You just blindly accept that everything he does is all peachy-keen.
How white of you.
It is fact, no opinion. Why would I bother listening to Trump opinions, with these revelations coming to the fore?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wasteful-dangerous-doges-top-5-most-shocking-revelations
@AverageJoe1 saidIT IS NOT WASTE.
This is all Trump's opinion? So Musk finds billions in waste, see example link, and you call it Trump Opinion??
It is fact, no opinion. Why would I bother listening to Trump opinions, with these revelations coming to the fore?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wasteful-dangerous-doges-top-5-most-shocking-revelations
It is government employees doing their jobs.
That you don't like the job they do is rather obvious, but it is not "waste".
And don't you tell me it is a product of corruption, either. The Trump Administration has the record where that stands.
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@Suzianne saidOf the many rocks he is overturning, some are corruption no question, but this one issue is, as you say, not corruption, as it is not dishonest or fraudulent.
IT IS NOT WASTE.
It is government employees doing their jobs.
That you don't like the job they do is rather obvious, but it is not "waste".
And don't you tell me it is a product of corruption, either. The Trump Administration has the record where that stands.
Musk Team goes into a typical govt office and finds that, although it started out as a necessity years ago, there are many more people working there than are necessary. 'Wasteful' expenditure of the money budgeted for that office.
Golly, all he did was to point it out, as a pesky businessman would, and many of you do not think that he should have pointed that out, and that all of those employees should be able to keep 'being' in that office.
So, end result, YOU want them to stay there, so that they can collect paychecks, with which we are paying them to do nothing. There IS NO job, Suzianne.
It is not that I don't like the job that they do.....there Is No Job.
And, there is no need to mention 'Trump' here, it is business sense, common sense.
@moonbus saidUnless he's planning on using them domestically .....
Where are you going to recharge an electric armored vehicle when you've invaded a foreign land and the local guerillas have sabotaged the power grid??
Oh, right, Trump doesn't start wars. Got it. So he won't need any armored vehicles at all. Neither Musk's nor anyone else's.
Case closed.
@AverageJoe1 saidSo it is just coincidence Musk, who has LITERALLY billions of dollars of military contract, all of a sudden gets a FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR order for the cybertruck which is a POS, weighs EIGHT THOUSAND POUNDS and gets stuck and is not bullet proof like they said:
Ahhhh, what are his plans!?!!?? The libs here want him to TELL US his plans, dadgum it!!
If Moonbus and I were playing cards, should Moonbus show me his hand?
What would AvJoe do without anologies!?!?
Priced at over 100,000 EACH.
Out of all the vehicles and company making them they just HAPPEN to pick TESLA, which BTW is flagging right now, sales down some 50 or more % world wide.
No corruption here, right.
@sonhouse saidGood morning, little fella. I looked up cyber truck as, I have no idea what that is, not having the background that you do. I am a right brain person you see.. Anyway, the only cyber truck out there is a Tesla. Am I missing something.? If we want a cyber truck, we have to get Tesla. Sorry I am a little slow on the uptake.
So it is just coincidence Musk, who has LITERALLY billions of dollars of military contract, all of a sudden gets a FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR order for the cybertruck which is a POS, weighs EIGHT THOUSAND POUNDS and gets stuck and is not bullet proof like they said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KLzg6Di_I
Priced at over 100,000 EACH.
Out of all the vehicles and ...[text shortened]... ch BTW is flagging right now, sales down some 50 or more % world wide.
No corruption here, right.
If you respond, could you not add links to your post, not my thing. It is like I have to consider what you say, or what someone in a YouTube says. Give me a break.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou couldn't put it together that mentioning cybertruck and Musk together in the same post could possibly have meant they were made by Tesla?
Good morning, little fella. I looked up cyber truck as, I have no idea what that is, not having the background that you do. I am a right brain person you see.. Anyway, the only cyber truck out there is a Tesla. Am I missing something.? If we want a cyber truck, we have to get Tesla. Sorry I am a little slow on the uptake.
If you respond, could you not add links to your ...[text shortened]... ng. It is like I have to consider what you say, or what someone in a YouTube says. Give me a break.
Maybe you didn't know Musk is CEO of Tesla?
The main point here is OBVIOUS corruption on the highest level.
The cybertruck from TESLA has many weaknesses that could be used to advantage by an enemy.
It is a LOT easier to destroy than the Humvee which is PROVEN in battle.
FOUR HUNDRED MILLION directly to Musk right after being hired by Trump to be his attack dog.
SUCH a convenient set of circumstances.
Who the FUUK are you trying to kid?
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@sonhouse saidYou purport to know , first what trump will use them for,,,,,for all we know it could just be for a parade, Sonhouse, to show off our strength.
You couldn't put it together that mentioning cybertruck and Musk together in the same post could possibly have meant they were made by Tesla?
Maybe you didn't know Musk is CEO of Tesla?
The main point here is OBVIOUS corruption on the highest level.
The cybertruck from TESLA has many weaknesses that could be used to advantage by an enemy.
It is a LOT easier to dest ...[text shortened]... e his attack dog.
SUCH a convenient set of circumstances.
Who the FUUK are you trying to kid?
THEN you know that the teslas are not adequate for what Trump will use them for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but you don't know what he will use them for.
So, I absorb all that, as does Sue, and we are expected to go toe to toe with you about this? Trump, the Teslas, the wars, comparing hot dogs to hamburgers, maybe the teslas need to be painted desert-brown,,,,,,,,or, or, go play golf. Not as many unsubstantiated opinions on the golf course.......the ball goes in, or it doesn't.
The cybertruck from TESLA has many weaknesses that could be used to advantage by an enemy.
Did you actually say this? I am glad we are not discussing the nature of a brain tumor with Sonhouse! Oh my lord........
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@AverageJoe1 saidSo you didn't see the video where the dude threw a weight at the cybertruck window where it was supposed to be bulletproof and broke just throwing a weight at it?
You purport to know , first what trump will use them for,,,,,for all we know it could just be for a parade, Sonhouse, to show off our strength.
THEN you know that the teslas are not adequate for what Trump will use them for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but you don't know what he will use them for.
So, I absorb all that, as does Sue, and we are expected to g ...[text shortened]... is? I am glad we are not discussing the nature of a brain tumor with Sonhouse! Oh my lord........
BTW, there are videos showing the body, stainless steel badly rusting in a few months. just what you want in a military vehicle.
It is full of faults.
But you won't bother googling the problems with that 'truck'.
@sonhouse saidNo, I hire, through elections, people to do that. Usually engineers, you might call me a man of letters, so I know nothing of weights. Plus, uou and I don't know what the Teslas wohld be used for. Are you going to suggest a more useful vehicle to the government?
So you didn't see the video where the dude threw a weight at the cybertruck window where it was supposed to be bulletproof and broke just throwing a weight at it?
BTW, there are videos showing the body, stainless steel badly rusting in a few months. just what you want in a military vehicle.
It is full of faults.
But you won't bother googling the problems with that 'truck'.
Let me ask you why you love George Soros, see link that spells him out.
But on the other hand, you hate Musk? Are you a hypocrite? Plz note that we all use the word Hate losely on the Forum for brevity. I know, I know, you don't hate anybody.
https://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?guid=81970e9d-d282-4ba8-948b-3ca803a49df4
Hello sonhouse. How can the states impede the feds who are trying to enforce immigration? They have no power to be involved in controlling immigration. Can we put the governors of those states in jail?
Hey, do you ant to change th consitution? Why? YOu don't like what i says. It has worked for 250 years. Why do y'all stand in the street like Marxists singing 1930s Union songs??/. Really weird, I gotta say. Do you still want to end the Elec College, so that the citizens of only 10 states can elect a president? So many questions.
But to heck with those questions, what about the Tesla. You think they cost to much on the one hand, but you spend $670B to pay loans of college graduates, but nothing towards my housekeepers car loan.
Let;s get it on.
@AverageJoe1 saidMusk is not who you think he is, he has an agenda that does not include keeping the US a democracy. I think it will be 50 50 whether it will be Trump or Musk that pulls that off.
No, I hire, through elections, people to do that. Usually engineers, you might call me a man of letters, so I know nothing of weights. Plus, uou and I don't know what the Teslas wohld be used for. Are you going to suggest a more useful vehicle to the government?
Let me ask you why you love George Soros, see link that spells him out.
But on the other hand, you ...[text shortened]... https://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?guid=81970e9d-d282-4ba8-948b-3ca803a49df4
The Humvee has a proven battlefield record, the cybertruck is a joke. You should watch that video and you will see just how bulletproof that glass is.
AND the damned body made of stainless steel starts to rust especially in winter conditions with salt on the road and they start looking like S H I T after a couple of years. AND it weighs 8000 pounds, I drive a Honda Pilot and it only clocks in at 4000 pounds so twice the weight of my Pilot.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou REFUSE to even TRY to get it. A FOUR HUNDRED MILLION dollar deal just after Musk starts mucking around in our most sensitive data and you treat THAT like it is nothing. But right after that a 400Million dollar contract for Cybertrucks to be used in some kind of military outfit.
Hello sonhouse. How can the states impede the feds who are trying to enforce immigration? They have no power to be involved in controlling immigration. Can we put the governors of those states in jail?
Hey, do you ant to change th consitution? Why? YOu don't like what i says. It has worked for 250 years. Why do y'all stand in the street like Marxists singing ...[text shortened]... o pay loans of college graduates, but nothing towards my housekeepers car loan.
Let;s get it on.
One RPG and that POS truck is history.
And you think there couldn't POSSIBLY be any corruption there.
What happened to your lawyer like analytical powers? If you ever had them.
@AverageJoe1 saidHere's what you cannot understand.
Of the many rocks he is overturning, some are corruption no question, but this one issue is, as you say, not corruption, as it is not dishonest or fraudulent.
Musk Team goes into a typical govt office and finds that, although it started out as a necessity years ago, there are many more people working there than are necessary. 'Wasteful' expenditure of the money bud ...[text shortened]... ere Is No Job.
And, there is no need to mention 'Trump' here, it is business sense, common sense.
You say that there's "no job". There's no job in working for profit, like a business, no. They are in Government. They work for the People, not for profit. They help the People, not business. This takes time, to listen to the People, it takes more of them the more work they do for the People. Have you ever spent nearly an hour on hold calling a governmental agency? This is because they do not have enough workers to handle the load the People put on them, The IRS for one, calling them results in huge wait times, because they do not have enough people to handle all the calls. This is true in a lot of governmental agencies. You expect them to do work, then give them enough people to DO the work of the People. Budget slashers, like you, are the ones making these agencies inefficient because they simply have more work than people to do that work. You want to slow the work of government to a crawl so that you can come back later and say "What are they doing? Not much." That is because you do not let them DO the work for the People.