@AverageJoe1 saidNon sequitur.
How perfect and more simple could this analogy be??
Wgrass or someone said Trump should tell us why he does stuff.
So, in a card game, I want Wildgrass to show me his hand. Wildgrqass, likewise, wants Trump to show Putin his hand.
Say, yes joe, the analogy is not THAT bad. You can do this. It will help your anger dissipate!
"It does not follow."
@sonhouse saidIt is corruption on a scale even Republicans are embarrassed by.
So it is just coincidence Musk, who has LITERALLY billions of dollars of military contract, all of a sudden gets a FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR order for the cybertruck which is a POS, weighs EIGHT THOUSAND POUNDS and gets stuck and is not bullet proof like they said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KLzg6Di_I
Priced at over 100,000 EACH.
Out of all the vehicles and ...[text shortened]... ch BTW is flagging right now, sales down some 50 or more % world wide.
No corruption here, right.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidMeanwhile Creepy Trump watched Musk speak, while thinking, "Who's your Daddy?"
If Biden or Harris had done that you would say "That's so sweet look how natural they are bringing kids into the WH"....while creepy Joe grabbed them and sniffed their hair.
@AverageJoe1 saidReally?
You one a' them conspirator theorists
You're the one who refuses to ever, ever, ever, ever see reason regarding the world's greatest con man, Trump.
@AverageJoe1 saidThis "new day" is 1984.
You simply point out that this is a new day. I can't believe you liked the old day better.
@Suzianne saidC'mon, Sue. Enough with the quips and one liners. You wanna be a debator on the RHP Forum? You may enjoy it.
Submit that to Trump.
He'll laugh in your face. He WANTS a stupid electorate.
Here, you say that education should be free. I, AvJoe, expand your comments by suggesting that we bat around how that could happen. You write about Trump, for some reason, and then one sentence, a really cute one that makes us ponder.
Now I am thinking, darn it, I wonder how she might respond to my querying 'what if' we had free education.
But she does not. So I prepared that nice scenario about free education (YOUR subject) and you brush me off. Downer. No fun. Even Sonhouse is more fun.
@AverageJoe1 saidYour "scenarios" are like your analogies. Too stupid. It would never happen.
C'mon, Sue. Enough with the quips and one liners. You wanna be a debator on the RHP Forum? You may enjoy it.
Here, you say that education should be free. I, AvJoe, expand your comments by suggesting that we bat around how that could happen. You write about Trump, for some reason, and then one sentence, a really cute one that makes us ponder.
Now I am thinking, ...[text shortened]... ut free education (YOUR subject) and you brush me off. Downer. No fun. Even Sonhouse is more fun.
So I can only decide you are "taking the piss" with me.
@AverageJoe1 saidSo , this is a question that might be brought to the legislators in DC, 'let us figure out how to provide free education.'
Why don't you prepare a plan that we can all review, of how education can be free? We all get grades thru 12, all free.
But then , explain how every one goes to college ** , for free. Then, Med school, law school, MIT, etc, come one, come all.
**. One proviso, sue. The standards which the institutions enjoy now have got to REMAIN EXACTLY as they are now......don ...[text shortened]... ou got to have a lot of money to hire all the professors, and MAINTAIN the aforementioned standards.
So, some here on RHP might want to tackle this question....especially Sue, since she suggests it, but gives us no plan. She just throws it out there, and goes on to type NO Siqitours.
So can anyone help Sue on how the USA would be able to afford free education
@AverageJoe1 saidThe most logical way to do it would be to freeze spending or decrease budgets for a period and let agencies figure out where they can trim spending.
So , this is a question that might be brought to the legislators in DC, 'let us figure out how to provide free education.'
So, some here on RHP might want to tackle this question....especially Sue, since she suggests it, but gives us no plan. She just throws it out there, and goes on to type NO Siqitours.
So can anyone help Sue on how the USA would be able to afford free education
Firing people randomly is going to backfire with issues regarding readiness and competency. Issues will pile up if non experts think they can determine where best to save. The government will not save any money.
@wildgrass saidI am inclined to agree with you. If for no other reason, the arguments that will ensue will never reach conclusions. It is not like Trump can just say how to run an office… The office would run one way or another, but not necessarily save any money. He will, for instance, be able just to hold back money that the government gives to the agencies, but who is to say that that would work. Well I sure as hell think we should try. I think some people on the forum say no don’t try. Just leave everything like it is.
The most logical way to do it would be to freeze spending or decrease budgets for a period and let agencies figure out where they can trim spending.
Firing people randomly is going to backfire with issues regarding readiness and competency. Issues will pile up if non experts think they can determine where best to save. The government will not save any money.
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@AverageJoe1 saidI don't think you'll find anyone on this forum who disagrees that the government can and should be run as efficiently as possible. There's always room for improvement.
I am inclined to agree with you. If for no other reason, the arguments that will ensue will never reach conclusions. It is not like Trump can just say how to run an office… The office would run one way or another, but not necessarily save any money. He will, for instance, be able just to hold back money that the government gives to the agencies, but who is to say that tha ...[text shortened]... we should try. I think some people on the forum say no don’t try. Just leave everything like it is.
The real debate is over process. It seems you are saying that the DOGE method is unlikely to succeed but try it anyway because why not?
There are known ways to do this that work. Clinton cut spending, for example. There has been little will in Washington to cut spending but now that there appears to be widespread support the trump administration squanders the opportunity. They are ignoring large swaths of known wasteful spending, instead focused on cutting random areas of the public workforce, undermining the most successful economic stimulus programs the country has. It's a shame.
Edit: I will add that it seems almost unavoidable now that our economy is headed for a deep recession caused by firing 200,000 people in a short few months. These will be some of the biggest job losses we've ever seen, outside of a few months in 2008 and 2020.
@wildgrass saidWho told you the firings were random?
The most logical way to do it would be to freeze spending or decrease budgets for a period and let agencies figure out where they can trim spending.
Firing people randomly is going to backfire with issues regarding readiness and competency. Issues will pile up if non experts think they can determine where best to save. The government will not save any money.