29 May 09
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/freest-least-free-states/new-york.html?state=play
While New Hampshire, Colorado and South Dakota could all reasonably claim to be the freest state in the country, only New York is in contention for the least free title. The main reason is the Empire State's penchant for high taxes - on the whole, they are the highest in the nation, and income taxes on both the individual and business level are extensive.
29 May 09
Originally posted by zeeblebotFreedom can be defined in terms of the level of taxation?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/freest-least-free-states/new-york.html?state=play
While New Hampshire, Colorado and South Dakota could all reasonably claim to be the freest state in the country, only New York is in contention for the least free title. The main reason is the Empire State's penchant for high taxes - on the whole, they are the highest in the nation, and income taxes on both the individual and business level are extensive.
29 May 09
Originally posted by FMFI can't even think a devil's advocate argument to fight this idea's corner.
Freedom can be defined in terms of the level of taxation?
What was your link about? I can't be bothered to go there. Want to give us your own take on this topic, modified - as much or as little as you wish - by something you've read, if needs be?
29 May 09
Originally posted by FMFWell the Founding Fathers seemed to think they were related. However, as for socialists and the left on this site, taxation seems to have nothing to do with it. So I guess you simply have to choose where you live based upon your perspective.
Freedom can be defined in terms of the level of taxation?
29 May 09
Originally posted by whodeySo pure freedom would be taxless - 'freedom from infrastructure', 'freedom from being defended', 'freedom from a legal system'?
Well the Founding Fathers seemed to think they were related. However, as for socialists and the left on this site, taxation seems to have nothing to do with it. So I guess you simply have to choose where you live based upon your perspective.
29 May 09
Originally posted by FMFit's up to you to further your own education. remain in the mire if you want.
No. I'm not interested in what someone wrote on wikipedia. Never mind. Your premise for this thread is bizarre. And you are seemingly unwilling to defend it it, let alone expand upon it. Oh well.
29 May 09
Originally posted by zeeblebotYou sadly overrate your own essentiality - and the essentiality of the things you deem to be interesting on the web. If I wanted to 'debate with wikipedia' I would go there, log on, and edit articles.
it's up to you to further your own education. remain in the mire if you want.
29 May 09
Originally posted by zeeblebotWhat do you care about New York? You live in California...the land of pot plants, new religions, and sunshine. Leave New York alone, it's not bothering you.😏
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/freest-least-free-states/new-york.html?state=play
While New Hampshire, Colorado and South Dakota could all reasonably claim to be the freest state in the country, only New York is in contention for the least free title. The main reason is the Empire State's penchant for high taxes - on the whole, they are the highest in the nation, and income taxes on both the individual and business level are extensive.
29 May 09
Originally posted by FMFI am only stating how some of the Founding Fathers felt. For example, Ben Franklin once said taxes that exceed 1/10th of your income should be considered oppressive. The Boston Tea party was hatched due to taxation wihout representation etc.
So pure freedom would be taxless - 'freedom from infrastructure', 'freedom from being defended', 'freedom from a legal system'?
I don't know anyone who does not like taxes, do you? In fact, the people who vote for them often don't even pay them as the Obama administration soon found out earlier this year. LOL.
29 May 09
Originally posted by whodeyI have wasted scarcely a single minute of my life bellyaching about taxes. I find obsession with tax - even reaching the baffling extreme of equating an utterly mundane thing like 'a high level of tax' with "freedom"! - almost incomprehensible.
I don't know anyone who does not like taxes, do you? .