Originally posted by FMFLet's put it this way:
Aren't you being rather petty and tabloid now? Someone rolled her eyes at an interviewee and this serves to suspend your political judgement and sense of proportion?
her first interview could have been ok as others have been for her.
Instead, it was a disaster as Couric clearly pushed for it to be, and the piranhas smelled blood...
Couric ambushed Palin. Where is the disagreement?
Originally posted by eljefejesusI'm not interested in doing that right now. There were dozens of threads that went through her strengths and weaknesses back in 2008. I was interested in your apparently partisan defence of her when I had you marked down as a poster who would have demanded far higher levels competence and credibility from a candidate for VP.
I yield the forum floor for you to list her inadequacies.
Originally posted by FMFAll this in response to: Couric ambushed Palin?
I'm not interested in doing that right now. There were dozens of threads that went through her strengths and weaknesses back in 2008. I was interested in your apparently partisan defence of her when I had you marked down as a poster who would have demanded far higher levels competence and credibility from a candidate for VP.
I'm just saying and maintaining this:
Couric ambushed Palin.
Fact.
Just a part of the discourse, and one that should be obvious to the discerning eye.
Originally posted by eljefejesusThe word "ambushed" is partisan mewling. There's the disagreement.
Couric ambushed Palin. Where is the disagreement?
If Palin crumples before an interviewer of Couric's meagre calibre, then Palin was way way out of her depth. And these kinds of inadequacies are revealled almost without fail in this TV age.
Originally posted by FMFI think Couric demonstrated some capable abilities at ambush-style interviews. Although granted whoever edited/directed the scenes shows clearly had a major role, Couric deserves some respect for her abilities. And yes, Palin fell, but it would be hard not to if your interviewer and the editor/director want you to fail. Seriously, have you not seen how people's words can be distorted by a hostile medium controlled by an adverse party?
The word "ambushed" is partisan mewling. There's the disagreement.
If Palin crumples before an interviewer of Couric's meagre calibre, then Palin was way way out of her depth. And these kinds of inadequacies are revealled almost without fail in this TV age.
In any independent viewpoint, one cannot deny that Couric tried to make Palin look bad.
I also believe that Palin gives the impression of someone not ready for primetime, but that was not part of my point at the time.
My point, once more, was that Couric ambushed Palin.
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Mutual star-making machine
By David Bauder
Associated Press writer
Posted July 04, 2009
NEW YORK — Even President Barack Obama, a gleam in his eye as he talked at the Radio and Television Correspondents’ Association dinner two weeks ago, seemed to recognize the special relationship he’s forged with TV networks in the opening months of his administration.
"A few nights ago I was up tossing and turning and trying to figure out exactly what to say," he said. "Finally, when I couldn’t get back to sleep, I rolled over and asked Brian Williams what he thought."
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Originally posted by FMFWell what we were discussing originally was Sarah Palin and implying she was not smart because of gaffs,some she never said but was claimed to have.gaffs could be the only way to judge her lack of intelligence because it certainly could not be from her work as govenor. personally i think the women is brilliant and scares the heck out of the "ol' boy network" in d.c.(republicans and dems.) and they have done everything to portray her as a bimbo.Especially,her own party.
But if all you've got is stuff like the "57 states" thing, your assertion is very very weak. Everyone who has been in contact with him, including opponents, speak of how he is a highly intelligent man. Is it your patriotism that makes you wish this were not so?
As far as Obama,he is a great orator reading a speech some one else wrote for him from a teleprompter. when put to the test,no script,off the cuff,we get alot of ahh,s,duh's,and umm,s.They say he has a high i.q. put like so many other documents from his past i cant find them.So using gaffs as a gauge to judge a politician "being smart" Obama and company are not ahead of Palin ,G.W.,or any body.
Does my patriotism wish it were not so,you ask? All I can say to that is I am very patriotic,but i believe Obama and company are radicals w/a radical agenda.
Originally posted by eljefejesusYes, I have.
Seriously, have you not seen how people's words can be distorted by a hostile medium controlled by an adverse party?
But the use of the word "ambush" in this case is easily dismissable partisan buzz word.
The interview revealed that Palin was a woefully inept and vacuous candidate. You seek to defend her with the word "ambush", that's your affair.
The only "adverse party" that's relevant here is the 'big rough tough world' that's out there, and the swings and roundabouts of the U.S. media weeded Palin out.
Palin's words were not distorted at all. There was no need for her 'opponents' to do this. Her words - and her credibility - crashed and burned all on their own.
It seems to me that Palin brings the sports fan out in you. 🙂
Originally posted by utherpendragonGaffes? I never mentioned gaffes. Her 'lack of knowledge' and her apparent ability to reach full grown adulthood without developing 'intellectual curiosity' are not gaffes. If she intends to run in 2012, then failing to finish her term as governor of Alaska might possibly be described as a gaffe, although I would use the term 'political misstep'.
Well what we were discussing originally was Sarah Palin and implying she was not smart because of gaffs,some she never said but was claimed to have.
Originally posted by FMFi know you did not mention gaffs but thats what people use to judge her.Ones she never said,actually.what examples do you have of her lack of knowledge,and not having intellectual curiosity and her not being a full grown adult?
Gaffes? I never mentioned gaffes. Her 'lack of knowledge' and her apparent ability to reach full grown adulthood without developing 'intellectual curiosity' are not gaffes. If she intends to run in 2012, then failing to finish her term as governor of Alaska might possibly be described as a gaffe, although I would use the term 'political misstep'.
Originally posted by utherpendragonNo. I did not mention gaffes. And I do not judge her on her gaffes. Please, you speak for yourself, and speak for others if you must, but I am here on this thread, speaking for myself.
i know you did not mention gaffs but thats what people use to judge her.
Oh well, this news is getting old already, it's just a shame that even after she resigns, she is treated unfairly.
I knew it all along though, she was too hot to be VP...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/2798748/Palinmania-Sarah-Palin-in-pictures.html?image=2
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