@no1marauder said“ The study found that black families with one or more parents who graduated college held about one-third less the wealth than white families with one or more parents who dropped out of school as a teen. ”
"Afros"?
I've already discussed SAT scores which I believe are worthless reflections of existing inequalities. You haven't shown that blacks at every level of educational attainment have lower GPAs than whites nor have you shown that that would even matter given the studies showing discrimination against blacks. So, no, you dodging my points doesn't mean we have to hav ...[text shortened]... ail.co.uk/news/article-5980819/White-high-school-dropouts-three-times-wealthier-educated-blacks.html
you dont understand the difference between wealth and earnings?
@mott-the-hoople saidYes, I do.
“ The study found that black families with one or more parents who graduated college held about one-third less the wealth than white families with one or more parents who dropped out of school as a teen. ”
you dont understand the difference between wealth and earnings?
I've already shown the disparities in income even with equal educational attainment (https://www.statista.com/statistics/184259/mean-earnings-by-educational-attainment-and-ethnic-group/), so I figured I'd point out the far worse inequality in wealth.
@mott-the-hoople saidThe list of cities "burned down", please.
A leader of Black Lives Matter's New York chapter on Wednesday said the movement was prepared to "burn down this system" if the U.S. does not work with participants to enact real change.
"If this country doesn't give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it," said Hawk Newsome, chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, during an ...[text shortened]...
https://www.newsweek.com/blm-leader-well-burn-system-down-if-us-wont-give-us-what-we-want-1513422
@no1marauder saiddo you deny blm/antifa are burning cities? oh my
The list of cities "burned down", please.
@mott-the-hoople saidYes, I deny that BLM and/or Antifa are "burning down cities". No cities in the US have been "burned down" to my knowledge. Nor would either "organization" (using the term loosely) have any interest in doing so.
do you deny blm/antifa are burning cities? oh my
There has been some looting and burning directed at private businesses (though relative little compared to prior historical instances of urban unrest esp. considering the millions who have peacefully demonstrated regarding the issues of police brutality and social justice in the last few months), but that isn't the work of these "organizations" in any way, shape or form.
@no1marauder
I've already discussed SAT scores which I believe are worthless reflections of existing inequalities.
Fine, but YOU are not doing the hiring! Let us talk about that which is relevant
and that is, the people that do the hiring look closely at a new grads SATs and
college accomplishments, such as graduating with honors, high GPA etc
You haven't shown that blacks at every level of educational attainment have lower GPAs than whites nor have you shown that that would even matter given the studies showing discrimination against blacks.
I gave you THREE links showing you that there is clear differences in the GPA
average between Asians (highest), whites, Latinos, blacks. YOU are the one that
is being disingenuous, and we cannot get to the next step (discrimination to
Afros) until we resolve this very pertinent FACT. Sorry but if we fail to have agreement here, there will be no further discussion.
So, no, you dodging my points doesn't mean we have to have a discussion based purely on your evidence free suppositions.
I will hold back on admitting your points into play until we get agreement
here. You are NOT dictating the terms in this side thread. We either agree to
facts that I posted or it is OFF.
Here's an interesting stat from a Federal Reserve of St. Louis study:
The study found that black families with one or more parents who graduated college held about one-third less the wealth than white families with one or more parents who dropped out of school as a teen.
Surely hold off on further evidences until we get resolution here. Thank you.
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@no1marauder saidlol! Long before any right wingers got involved in a minor way, BLM and antifa
Yes, I deny that BLM and/or Antifa are "burning down cities". No cities in the US have been "burned down" to my knowledge. Nor would either "organization" (using the term loosely) have any interest in doing so.
There has been some looting and burning directed at private businesses (though relative little compared to prior historical instances of urban unrest esp. consi ...[text shortened]... in the last few months), but that isn't the work of these "organizations" in any way, shape or form.
had already done $500 million in damages. I posted this.
And you pull a Suize here and tell us outside agitators did it???
Come on, dude. You aren't even close to real. No wonder why you think you debunk everything!!
"democrats are awesome, Republicans are to blame for everything."
uh huh.
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@earl-of-trumps saidYou showed me no such thing. Only one of the links you had addressed GPAs among the population as a whole and that was for high schoolers using data more than 10 years old. And it's unclear that data is for graduates or the entire population. So, no, you haven't shown anything at all except that high schools do a subpar job educating POC in the US.
@no1marauder
I've already discussed SAT scores which I believe are worthless reflections of existing inequalities.
Fine, but YOU are not doing the hiring! Let us talk about that which is relevant
and that is, the people that do the hiring look closely at a new grads SATs and
college accomplishments, such as graduating with honors, high GPA etc
...[text shortened]... a teen.[/i]
Surely hold off on further evidences until we get resolution here. Thank you.
You don't dictate what can be discussed; if you refuse to address my points, I feel no obligation to address your weak arguments.
I seriously doubt any employers consider SAT scores at all and most take other factors into consideration besides GPA or they wouldn't have to do interviews. Google doesn't consider GPAs at all. https://www.businessinsider.com/how-google-hires-people-2013-6?op=1
There are many reasons why companies would and do hire people with lower GPAs (not that you've shown the median black graduate gets a lower GPA but we'll assume it for argument's sake):
"But Black says there is no hard cut-off. Even a student with a 2.1 could get a job at Ernst & Young if he had a good reason for his lagging grades, like being called up for military service in the middle of a semester. The applicant with the higher GPA doesn’t always get the job either. For instance a student with a 3.2 could beat out an applicant with a 3.9 if the student with the lower grades were working 30 hours a week to put himself through school and at the same time serving as class treasurer. “I’m always looking for people who can juggle multiple responsibilities,” says Black."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/12/06/do-employers-really-care-about-your-college-grades/#77cbc59f51e1
So you've given no facts that indicate the very large gaps in income at every educational level are due to anything but racial stereotyping (as the studies you don't want to talk about show).
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@earl-of-trumps saidNo, you haven't shown BLM and Antifa have "done $500 million in damages". You've imagined that every single bit of property damage is directly attributable to these two "organizations" but you haven't presented any evidence supporting that claim.
lol! Long before any right wingers got involved in a minor way, BLM and antifa
had already done $500 million in damages. I posted this.
And you pull a Suize here and tell us outside agitators did it???
Come on, dude. You aren't even close to real. No wonder why you think you debunk everything!!
"democrats are awesome, Republicans are to blame for everything."
uh huh.
@no1marauder said"but that isn't the work of these "organizations" in any way, shape or form."
Yes, I deny that BLM and/or Antifa are "burning down cities". No cities in the US have been "burned down" to my knowledge. Nor would either "organization" (using the term loosely) have any interest in doing so.
There has been some looting and burning directed at private businesses (though relative little compared to prior historical instances of urban unrest esp. consi ...[text shortened]... in the last few months), but that isn't the work of these "organizations" in any way, shape or form.
Uhhh...BLM leader said they wouold burn down the system...check
Video shows them doing just that...check
what part is it you dont understand?
@mott-the-hoople saidWho's "them"?
"but that isn't the work of these "organizations" in any way, shape or form."
Uhhh...BLM leader said they wouold burn down the system...check
Video shows them doing just that...check
what part is it you dont understand?
An off the cuff statement by one person in a local chapter doesn't really mean anything and he didn't even say he was in favor of burning down anything but "the system".
Find me somewhere where it is stated policy of BLM to burn down private businesses and maybe you'll have something.
@no1marauder saidI can only show you the burning and leaders calling for burning. You can stick with denial all you want, doesnt change the fact these blm mobs are burning our cities, with the approval of democrat leaders.
Who's "them"?
An off the cuff statement by one person in a local chapter doesn't really mean anything and he didn't even say he was in favor of burning down anything but "the system".
Find me somewhere where it is stated policy of BLM to burn down private businesses and maybe you'll have something.
@no1marauder saidWhat do you think this is, a courtroom???
No, you haven't shown BLM and Antifa have "done $500 million in damages". You've imagined that every single bit of property damage is directly attributable to these two "organizations" but you haven't presented any evidence supporting that claim.
You know damn right well who's doing the damage. It's BLM and antifa "peaceful" protesters.
@earl-of-trumps saidThat you guys keep repeating falsehoods doesn't magically transform it into the truth.
What do you think this is, a courtroom???
You know damn right well who's doing the damage. It's BLM and antifa "peaceful" protesters.
No cities have been "burned down". It is not the policy of either BLM or Antifa (to the extent they are organizations that have policies) to attack private businesses. Neither of you have presented anything to the contrary.
There have been literally millions of people marching for social justice and against police violence; your attempt to tar them with the label of criminal looters and arsonists is nothing but propaganda.