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    Originally posted by MoneyManMike
    Where exactly do you lie on the political spectrum? What is your race? What is your nationality? What is your sex? What is your gender?
    Are those the criteria on which you judge people?
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    Originally posted by MoneyManMike
    I was not dishonest at all in that thread.

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    I am not trolling. You need to back up your personal attacks with evidence or else they are not true.
    "You need to back up your personal attacks with evidence or else they are not true."

    Interesting, novel logic.

    1. MMM is a fine person.
    2. I have no evidence for (1).
    3. Therefore, (1) is not true.
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    21 Dec '13 00:48
    Originally posted by JS357
    Are those the criteria on which you judge people?
    No, but since Duchess judges people based on that criteria, I would like to know her stats.

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    btw, its stupendous that you and Duchess ignored my post that suggests that Kilgore actually does not admire Hitler. And you both have the audacity to call me dishonest...
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    21 Dec '13 00:49
    Originally posted by JS357
    "You need to back up your personal attacks with evidence or else they are not true."

    Interesting, novel logic.

    1. MMM is a fine person.
    2. I have no evidence for (1).
    3. Therefore, (1) is not true.
    Except your hypo is not defamatory. Apples and oranges dude.
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    21 Dec '13 00:51
    Originally posted by MoneyManMike
    Except your hypo is not defamatory. Apples and oranges dude.
    It helps to understand your beliefs about the logic of argumentation. Thanks.
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    I can do fine on my own, and don't need your advice on anything. You have totally hijacked a thread, on the President by fiat creating law, outside of his Constitutional authority, and turned it into a vendetta against MMM, KilgoreTrout, and me.

    Give it a break from dredging up stuff from other threads, and argue this one.
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    21 Dec '13 00:57
    Originally posted by JS357
    It helps to understand your beliefs about the logic of argumentation. Thanks.
    Actually, a conclusion backed up with evidence is logical argumentation.

    The bare assertion is not.

    http://www.toolkitforthinking.com/critical-thinking/anatomy-of-an-argument/deductive-logic-arguments/bare-assertion-fallacy
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    21 Dec '13 01:004 edits
    Originally posted by MoneyManMike
    No, but since Duchess judges people based on that criteria, I would like to know her stats.

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    btw, its stupendous that you and Duchess ignored my post that suggests that Kilgore actually does not admire Hitler. And you both have the audacity to call me dishonest...
    I didn't see it until I went back to review all the posts. I tend to assume that posters here are who they say they are and that they signal it when they are not sincere. Based on that, I have to regard KT's ambivalence to be genuine -- perhaps it reflects a personal ideology that is transitional over time, and if it drifts around, we'd have a lot more work to do to see what triggers the drift from one side to the other.

    So [/stupendous]
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    21 Dec '13 01:021 edit
    Originally posted by MoneyManMike
    Actually, a conclusion backed up with evidence is logical argumentation.

    The bare assertion is not.

    http://www.toolkitforthinking.com/critical-thinking/anatomy-of-an-argument/deductive-logic-arguments/bare-assertion-fallacy
    Ah, the light bulb above your head just lit up.
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    "If you are a racist, then just say so rather than keep dancing around it."

    And if we are not? Should we confess to soften your allegations?
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    RACIST!!! shame on you,, moderator.. expel this vile woman from these forums...
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