@AThousandYoung said…. and only one golden airplane.
Trump says you can have a maximum of five pencils and three dolls.
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@sh76 saidIf Democrats don't get smart and start grooming a credible candidate, America will be ruled by an Evangelical theocracy under JD Vance for eight more years, possibly indefinitely longer. Republicans have figured out how to game the system and put a man in the WH with less than 50% of the popular vote; they can do it again, and again, and again.
Forget "conservatives" or even Republicans for a second.
Do you not get how sickened most of us are by the identity politics that have set the tone of this government from mid-2020 through at least 2023 or 2024?
Whenever I bring it up, reasonable Democrats like you rarely defend it. Rather, you just say it's not such a big deal and minimize it as being less important than ...[text shortened]... e than half the people in the country think about this, then you're not yet on the road to recovery.
You know what theocracy means, don't you? Punishing people for thought-crime. The Evangelical platform would criminalise failure to believe in God (and they define which god).
You'll like that even less than Trump's incessant lying and blatant self-enrichment.
@AverageJoe1 saidIn other words, you could care less what happens to those millions losing insurance and some of them WILL die from lack of meds or whatever.
Again, the 'what representatives' have studied the impacts, the good and the bad, and maybe met in the middle.. I don't know, i do other things with my days.
You should figure a way to 'get in room' and give them your opinions??
Sonhouse...these things are not easy. I hope that our citizens have been self reliant so that they can tighten up here an there until t ...[text shortened]... d.
You mention FEMA above? You want to keep that sham of an organization? That tells me a lot.
I let my representatives to do that.
Right. Like you actually have friends.
@no1marauder saidDo you think the provision stopping SCOTUS and lower courts from enforcing injunctions and court orders that will IMMEDIATELY end democracy?
I wouldn't count on the Senate "shredding" it or restoring the Medicaid cuts.
Cynically, the Medicaid cuts won't go into effect until December 2026 which apparently coincidentally, is a month after the midterms.
Is that a problem for you? Do you even KNOW about that hidden provision in that bill?
@Lundos saidThe one provision that counts the most, the hidden one saying ALL the courts cannot enforce any injunction or court order, THAT provision LITERALLY kills democracy completely IMMEDIATELY because Trump can just go SCREW your orders, you don't have any power over me any more and BTW, I anointed myself KING Trump so I run EVERY part of the government now.
Pax Americana is over. Soon (if not already) the US political hegemony is over as Trump has ruined the US reputation and credibility. Up next is the dollars dominance and then the importance of the US economy. Then again Trump and his co-conspirators and racketeers are already very rich from the plundering, so it'll only be the US citizens that will suffer. And suffering doesn ...[text shortened]... pass the Senate - at least not in it's current form) are higher crime rates and increased inflation.
The rest of the sinister Zombies bill is bad enough, gutting Medicaid and such but this provision is a thousand times worse, it LITERALLY kills democracy in one swoop.
The coup will be complete and there will be NOTHING to stop Trump from ANYTHING he wants, call out martial law, use the military to quell protests, shoot them if he wants, stop all elections, Trump ruling forever just like Orban, and if and when he wants to retire, announce anyone he wants as the next king, Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, Don Jr, Eric, and the dynasty continues.
At that point he could say NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY, No more Medicaid, No more food stamps PERIOD, you want help get a job.....
@moonbus said===You know what theocracy means, don't you? Punishing people for thought-crime. The Evangelical platform would criminalise failure to believe in God (and they define which god).===
If Democrats don't get smart and start grooming a credible candidate, America will be ruled by an Evangelical theocracy under JD Vance for eight more years, possibly indefinitely longer. Republicans have figured out how to game the system and put a man in the WH with less than 50% of the popular vote; they can do it again, and again, and again.
You know what theocracy mean ...[text shortened]... which god).
You'll like that even less than Trump's incessant lying and blatant self-enrichment.
Source?
@Suzianne said*Some* of them are racist, yes.
That would be dumb.
We scream at racists because they're racist.
Have you heard some of these hateful blowhards in here?
Just like *some* of the people protesting Israel are foaming-at-the-mouth Jew-haters.
But painting all Trump supporters as racist is both incorrect and a terrible idea politically.
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@sh76 saidIf you support a racist, you are a de facto racist. You see nothing wrong in someone pre-judging people by their race.
*Some* of them are racist, yes.
Just like *some* of the people protesting Israel are foaming-at-the-mouth Jew-haters.
But painting all Trump supporters as racist is both incorrect and a terrible idea politically.
@sh76 saidIt sounds reasonable to me (as well as completely UNreasonable as applied to government). A separation of church and state is entirely necessary to avoid corruption.
===You know what theocracy means, don't you? Punishing people for thought-crime. The Evangelical platform would criminalise failure to believe in God (and they define which god).===
Source?
@Suzianne saidI meant a source that the Evangelical movement is in favor enforcing its religion on others and punishing heresy, as moonbus asserts. I haven't seen anything to this effect.
It sounds reasonable to me (as well as completely UNreasonable as applied to government). A separation of church and state is entirely necessary to avoid corruption.
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@sh76 saidMaybe you could explain, specifically, what new "identity politics" the Biden administration engaged in 2021-24 that hadn't been established Democratic policies when Biden won by a wide margin over Trump in 2020. (EDIT: "Wide" is probably an exaggeration but 4.5% is significantly higher than Trump's 1.2% margin in 2024).
Forget "conservatives" or even Republicans for a second.
Do you not get how sickened most of us are by the identity politics that have set the tone of this government from mid-2020 through at least 2023 or 2024?
Whenever I bring it up, reasonable Democrats like you rarely defend it. Rather, you just say it's not such a big deal and minimize it as being less important than ...[text shortened]... e than half the people in the country think about this, then you're not yet on the road to recovery.
A lot of beliefs held by uneducated white folks who are the backbone of Trump's support are "backward and antiquated" as this Forum shows almost every day.
@sh76 saidThe election was so close that simply picking Shapiro instead of Walz might have swung it to Harris. In any event, Biden's growing incapacity was surely the biggest millstone around Harris' neck (and her puzzling reluctance to criticize him at all), not any outrage over "identity politics".
Forget "conservatives" or even Republicans for a second.
Do you not get how sickened most of us are by the identity politics that have set the tone of this government from mid-2020 through at least 2023 or 2024?
Whenever I bring it up, reasonable Democrats like you rarely defend it. Rather, you just say it's not such a big deal and minimize it as being less important than ...[text shortened]... e than half the people in the country think about this, then you're not yet on the road to recovery.
@no1marauder saidTwo things can be true at the same time:
The election was so close that simply picking Shapiro instead of Walz might have swung it to Harris. In any event, Biden's growing incapacity was surely the biggest millstone around Harris' neck (and her puzzling reluctance to criticize him at all), not any outrage over "identity politics".
1. The election was close; and
2. Democrats' inept handling of social policy messaging cost them the election
That a buffoon like Trump could even be competitive in a general election is testament enough to Democratic incompetence (and the incompetence of the traditional wing of the Republican party, of course, but that's not the issue here).
@no1marauder said===A lot of beliefs held by uneducated white folks who are the backbone of Trump's support are "backward and antiquated" as this Forum shows almost every day.===
Maybe you could explain, specifically, what new "identity politics" the Biden administration engaged in 2021-24 that hadn't been established Democratic policies when Biden won by a wide margin over Trump in 2020. (EDIT: "Wide" is probably an exaggeration but 4.5% is significantly higher than Trump's 1.2% margin in 2024).
A lot of beliefs held by uneducated white folks ...[text shortened]... the backbone of Trump's support are "backward and antiquated" as this Forum shows almost every day.
Possibly, but that backbone is maybe 20-25% of the electorate. Getting the rest of the way to victory in a general election is due to Democratic ineptness in handling covid, inflation, and identity politics.