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@AverageJoe1 said
Here is a relevant answer. Marauder and others have suggested in the past that there be no actual winners everybody gets a trophy. Do you remember that. So today I go to a church basketball game maybe 100 kids all set out into different teams play in their hearts out. There were winners and they were losers. I think that you and marauder want that to change. Or tell me , ...[text shortened]... nd losers. Do you like winners and losers …..another question a liberal does not know how to answer.
I never said any such thing, you pathetic idiot. I've been hyper competitive my entire life.

Why are you such a compulsive and non-stop liar?


@no1marauder said
I never said any such thing, you pathetic idiot. I've been hyper competitive my entire life.

Why are you such a compulsive and non-stop liar?
You have quoted Marx. Are you 100% capitalist or not? Throw us a word play, add s few links for color?
Give ma a break. You are a merry go round

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@AverageJoe1
I’ll start. Our govt takes care of the 50M in true need. It could be 60, but Trump sending 10M back.
Then, our govt establishes agencies for universal use, education, healthcare programs, FAA, FDA, all the F’s, military, Courts, , hwy system. Etc?

Everyone create enterprises, work , create jobs, which begat more jobs, more enterprises, and we sit back and watch blossoming of self reliance, freedom independence and liberty. Liberty from government and from ‘other people’ not part of the created society.

If you agree, then you and I agree, and you need not answer, and my apologies for stating you are prone to socialism. I certainly did think that you were for the diabolical spreading of wealth sound, which is already being done w taxes.


@AverageJoe1 said
You have quoted Marx. Are you 100% capitalist or not? Throw us a word play, add s few links for color?
Give ma a break. You are a merry go round
GFY. I'm not wasting any further time with such a moron, got a Christmas party to go to.

Capitalism is a rigged game, not a competitive one. The "judges" make their decisions on who "wins" based on what profits them. No real competition would allow that.


@no1marauder said
GFY. I'm not wasting any further time with such a moron, got a Christmas party to go to.

Capitalism is a rigged game, not a competitive one. The "judges" make their decisions on who "wins" based on what profits them. No real competition would allow that.
Thankyou


@AverageJoe1
Hands full w guy who says a person can transition from one sex to another. Do I dare ask him can a person go, say, back and forth?


@no1marauder said
GFY. I'm not wasting any further time with such a moron, got a Christmas party to go to.

Capitalism is a rigged game, not a competitive one. The "judges" make their decisions on who "wins" based on what profits them. No real competition would allow that.
Wait. What, who, in your mind would be the judges that would regulate, for lack of a better word, the decision-making of ‘the judges’ whom you mention? From whence does such resounding control come from? If sue were on w us, she would say from the people.


@AThousandYoung said
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/pgu52c/race_of_europeans_according_to_benjamin_franklin/
Yep. This was the founding of White America. Don't forget the puritans in the 16th and 17th centuries when we were still a part of England.


@mchill said
Let’s see….the ‘old days’ that you suggest, or Socialism and all its trappings.


You really don't get it, do you Joe. This has nothing whatsoever to do with socialism. This has to do with creating a workforce that can manage information, employees, and resources in a business environment with a high degree of efficiency.

When Joe sees he's losing a debate, he drags ou ...[text shortened]... made of rubber, at least he made scary noises! 😏


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjNYWCH-fJw
I don’t get it? You link a Godzilla movie and say I don’t get it. I’m trying. But could you define ‘get it’ for me and everyone, so we can hash it out?
Not much to go on, don’t you see……


@AThousandYoung said
I took a class on ethnic history of America and when I saw the cartoons mocking the Irish I realized that these white nationalists are pulling the wool over the eyes of those of us who aren't WASPs.
EVERY group of immigrants has been vilified, when they first arrived on America's shores: Chinese (who built America's railroads), Irish (fleeing famine), Italians, Polish, Hispanics, Vietnamese, and recently Afghans, ..... prejudice is nothing new.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Whatever, so here we have to ask you how you are handling the influx of Biden’s invitees…. Non-English speaking grade school age (and younger) children. And we have no Yemen-speaking teachers.
My granny is a 4th grade teacher, tells me she has to ‘dumb down’ the sharp American citizens to wait for aliens to catch up. So, yes, dumbdown city.

Tell us, or ...[text shortened]... tory, Can’t wait, Please don’t do a Sonhouse rant, just say it like we are chatting at Starbucks
It's nothing to do with Biden. No need to bring him up, no need to rebut this non sequitur objection.

When foreigners come to your country and try to integrate into your culture, it makes sense to give them extra educational support so they can learn the language and the local customs. Cutting funding for these extra-curricular programs is calculated to make their transition more difficult and painful, for everyone, including you, Joe. Remember that next time you go to the grocery store and the clerk can hardly speak English to you.

Did you read the bit about canceling extra training for teachers, too? Trump's not only dumbing down students, he's driving away good teachers. How's that for deliberate stupidification? What would you think about canceling funding for management training? Would that make good business sense to you? Would that be good for business if the next three generations of managers were ill-trained?


@AverageJoe1 said
Let’s see….the ‘old days’ that you suggest, or Socialism and all its trappings. And, man, talk about being Trapped!!!
Which would you choose
Educating future adults, the very people who will one day run your country and its businesses, is nothing to do with socialism. No need to rebut this non sequitur objection.


@no1marauder said
I never said any such thing, you pathetic idiot. I've been hyper competitive my entire life.

Why are you such a compulsive and non-stop liar?
He's a troll. Or a paid provocateur.



Or he's been sent back in time from Trump-world 50 years in the future.



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@KingDavid403 said
I agree. When I went to University, we as students had to take two "Critical Thinking" courses. It was eye-opening for me; and, it also confirmed many of my beliefs.
I think ALL High-Schools should be required to have their students take "Critical Thinking" courses. I think that we all would be much better off if they did.
Here is a breakdown of voter demographics, for those who wish to educate themselves. Among other statistics listed at the web site linked below, is the level of education. The long and short of it is that the more education voters have, the more they are able to "think critically," the less likely they are to vote Republican.

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A somewhat larger share of the electorate has held college degrees in each of the past two midterm elections (43 % each) than in the past two presidential elections (39 % in 2020, 37 % in 2016).

As was the case in the 2018 midterms, voters with and without college degrees each accounted for roughly half of the Democratic Party’s voters in 2022 (51 % held college degrees while 49 % did not).

By contrast, a majority of Republican voters in 2022 had no college degree (63 % ); a smaller share had a college degree or more (37 % ). This is similar to the shares of Republican voters with and without a college degree in 2018.

White voters without college degrees made up a majority (54 % ) of Republican voters in 2022, compared with 27 % of Democratic voters.

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source:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/demographic-profiles-of-republican-and-democratic-voters/



Other studies support the above data:


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“The biggest single, best predictor of how someone’s going to vote in American politics now is education level. That is now the new fault line in American politics,” Sosnik told David Chalian on the “CNN Political Briefing” podcast.

Trump’s rise over the past three election cycles, Sosnik argued, “accelerated and completed this political realignment based on education that had been forming since the early ’70s, at the beginning of the decline in the middle class.”

As the US transitions to a 21st century economy, there’s a rift between the people who attain education – “that’s become the basic Democratic Party,” he said, comparing them with people who feel left behind, “that group of voters is now the modern Republican Party base.”

There’s data to back this up, as Sosnik has previously written. In an August report on growing income inequality in the US, the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis documented that for every dollar of wealth in a household headed by a college graduate, a household headed by a high school graduate has 22 cents. The figure rises to 30 cents for households headed by someone with some college, but no degree.

Put another way, college graduates hold about three-quarters of the wealth in the US, but account for only about 40 % of the population.

There’s a direct correlation to politics. In 2020, according to CNN’s exit polls, voters with a college degree accounted for 41 % of the electorate and they supported President Joe Biden 55 % to Trump’s 43 %. Trump got the support of about two-thirds of White voters without a college degree, but he lost White college-educated voters.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/14/politics/the-biggest-predictor-of-how-someone-will-vote



Cutting federal funding for eduction and for monitoring educational standards is not about saving money, it is not about giving Americans "freedom of choice" or making them "self-sufficient." It's about Republicans securing their powerbase by keeping Americans unable to think critically.

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@moonbus said
Here is a breakdown of voter demographics, for those who wish to educate themselves. Among other statistics listed at the web site linked below, is the level of education. The long and short of it is that the more education voters have, the more they are able to "think critically," the less likely they are to vote Republican.

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A somewhat larger share of the electo ...[text shortened]... t." It's about Republicans securing their powerbase by keeping Americans unable to think critically.
May I suggest imagine you are on a debate stage , this is a debate forum. Not a college class .You’d lost me, and the judges, early on.
And my opening line is Not about Biden per se, it is that after a smooth 250 years of admittance and education of foreigners, the actions of a president to open a border to flood people that we cannot educate and we NO LONGER VET has caused totalpandemonium.
Note how this post is understandable to you and the judges, meant to elicit a comment or rebuttal from you.
In any event, I’m learning today that Marauder considers capitalism to be a failure concept, and that you are all for bringing people who know nothing Willy nilly into our country and supporting them at all costs, including giving up the lives in blood of our ‘educated’ citizens.

You write like a girl, and all of you seem angry. Gas is $2.75 and inflation 2,7%. Trump.