Originally posted by Hank ReardenTry switching your brain on before you type anything. By smoking in public places they are forcing people to inhale their smoke. If they want to smoke somewhere where they are not forcing me to breathe it in, that's fine. I don't see why I shouldn't to go a pub or nightclub or restaurant simply because a minority of people there want to smoke. That is very definately stepping on my right to breathe clean air.
Fascism- a governmental system led by a dictator or group having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Yeah non-smokers forcing smokers to give up what they want and to be forced into a non-smokers lifestyle. sure sounds like ...[text shortened]... just because you don't like something that gives you the right to destroy it for everyone.
Maybe you think we should pollute the water supply because we're preventing people who like drinking toxic sludge from doing so?
Originally posted by scottishinnzAs far as I know no privately owned business has ever been forced by law to allow smoking. Businesses have always been able to ban smoking within their establishments. Shouldn't a business that has an established clientele of smokers have some say in how he continues to operate his business?
Try switching your brain on before you type anything. By smoking in public places they are forcing people to inhale their smoke. If they want to smoke somewhere where they are not forcing me to breathe it in, that's fine. I don't see why I shouldn't to go a pub or nightclub or restaurant simply because a minority of people there want to smoke. ...[text shortened]... e water supply because we're preventing people who like drinking toxic sludge from doing so?
Originally posted by DelmerOnly if you think that stepping on my right to breathe clean air is worth it. As far as I see it, smoking is an active choice. If they want to do it that's fine, but they have no right to do it in public places.
As far as I know no privately owned business has ever been forced by law to allow smoking. Businesses have always been able to ban smoking within their establishments. Shouldn't a business that has an established clientele of smokers have some say in how he continues to operate his business?
Originally posted by scottishinnzAnd do you not think a business owner has rights? Why would you want to do business with a nightclub that allows smoking if you are a non-smoker? Why would you want to do business with such a place so much that you insist upon laws being passed that force him to change the way he handles a legal product within his establishment?
Only if you think that stepping on my right to breathe clean air is worth it. As far as I see it, smoking is an active choice. If they want to do it that's fine, but they have no right to do it in [b]public places.[/b]
Originally posted by DelmerDo you believe that people have a right to kill others? This is essentially what you are mandating.
And do you not think a business owner has rights? Why would you want to do business with a nightclub that allows smoking if you are a non-smoker? Why would you want to do business with such a place so much that you insist upon laws being passed that force him to change the way he handles a legal product within his establishment?
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Originally posted by Hank ReardenI think it should work the other way... for bars etc. It's your choice to smoke, so you should step outside. It's not hard. (For the record I smoke)
I really admire the Tobacco industry, they sell a deadly addictive product that cost too much and they have people almost wraped around the block to buy them. Now they even Gotten so bold as to now have comercials TELLING people not to buy their product, how big do your balls have to be for that one.
But as far as actual smoking concerns nothing piss ...[text shortened]... wills and beliefs on the smoker well that is some good old fashion Facism plain and simple.
And, on the question of 'Light' cigarettes... I have never seen ad's saying that lights are better for you... I always thought they were there so you could decide how much punishment your throat should take...
Originally posted by DelmerI'm treated about the same. What's so funny is that I still hang around the smoking areas. They have a better class of people there. They are'nt sanctimonious like non-smokers. That's right Del. The 82nd rules.
Are people treating you better now, my friend? I should recognize your avatar insignia ... 82nd Airborne, right?