@Metal-Brain saidI think Trump WANTS Putin to take over Europe. He bows down to Putin every time he mentioned the name.
All Trump did was point out he held the cards and not the war monger.
Zelensky demanded the welfare continue. I thought you hated welfare.
You seem to like welfare to the military industrial complex. Why is that?
All of which you clearly LOVE since what you want is the dissolution of the US and the rebuilding of the former Soviet empire.
@Metal-Brain saidDo you not understand that Putin invaded Ukraine???
Despite all of the rhetoric from the war lovers like you I don't see any of you claiming Ukraine can win the war. Not one person on this forum will claim Ukraine can get back the territory they have lost to Russia, yet you support throwing money at Ukraine to fight a losing war.
Why do you want to throw money at a losing war? What is the goal?
What if a country invaded you country would you be ok with that. I THINK NOT!!!
Trump and Vance owe The Ukraine President an Apology. Trump is looking to win a Noble Peace Price, no matter what the cost to another country, he care more about Putin than he does Ukraine.
-VR
@Metal-Brain saidWhy do you think it is ok for Putin to INVADE another country. If it were your country you would singing a different tune, no doubt in my mind!!! You're a Trump Cultist!!!
Despite all of the rhetoric from the war lovers like you I don't see any of you claiming Ukraine can win the war. Not one person on this forum will claim Ukraine can get back the territory they have lost to Russia, yet you support throwing money at Ukraine to fight a losing war.
Why do you want to throw money at a losing war? What is the goal?
-VR
@Metal-Brain saidWhy do you think it is ok for Putin to INVADE another country. If it were your country you would singing a different tune, no doubt in my mind!!! You're a Trump Cultist!!!
Despite all of the rhetoric from the war lovers like you I don't see any of you claiming Ukraine can win the war. Not one person on this forum will claim Ukraine can get back the territory they have lost to Russia, yet you support throwing money at Ukraine to fight a losing war.
Why do you want to throw money at a losing war? What is the goal?
-VR
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@Very-Rusty saidThe Nobel Peace Prize...? 🙂 If so, he doesn't understand what it takes.
Do you not understand that Putin invaded Ukraine???
What if a country invaded you country would you be ok with that. I THINK NOT!!!
Trump and Vance owe The Ukraine President an Apology. Trump is looking to win a Noble Peace Price, no matter what the cost to another country, he care more about Putin than he does Ukraine.
-VR
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@Torunn saidI concur, Trump has a bromance with Putin, looks up to him praises him for invading another country!!! I can't see him winning a Noble Peace Prize in this life time. 🙂 Trump thinks he is in a reality show, he lives in a fantasy world of his own. He is disappointed because The Ukraine President will not bow to Putin or to Trump!
The Nobel Peace Price...? 🙂 If so, he doesn't understand what it takes.
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidTrump may be in the hands of other people, he is listening to the wrong kind of counsellors.
I concur, Trump has a bromance with Putin, looks up to him praises him for invading another country!!! I can't see him winning a Noble Peace Prize in this life time. 🙂 Trump thinks he is in a reality show, he lives in a fantasy world of his own. He is disappointed because The Ukraine President will not bow to Putin or to Trump!
-VR
@Torunn saidI never thought Trump was Presidential since his first term. Where was his first visit when he was elected to Russia of course to see Putin, not to his allies. Trump doesn't listen to anyone and cannot be trusted. He couldn't be trusted in business and he can't be trusted in running country, in my opinion.
Trump may be in the hands of other people, he is listening to the wrong kind of counsellors.
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidTrump represents the downfall of America. It had to come, all empires eventually fall, but I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime. That's until Trump came along. He's the thug trying to shake down the corner shop guy. All he is interested in is himself and the massive ego he uses to fill up the vacant useless space in his skull.
I never thought Trump was Presidential since his first term. Where was his first visit when he was elected to Russia of course to see Putin, not to his allies. Trump doesn't listen to anyone and cannot be trusted. He couldn't be trusted in business and he can't be trusted in running country, in my opinion.
-VR
I'm sad to be here to see it happen. It's like watching the lingering death of a friend.
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@Kewpie saidAgreed, but lets keep in mind Trump is only one man. He certainly doesn't represent the opinion of ALL AMERICANS, many of them strongly disagree with him and voice their opinions on this very Site! Lets not put all Americans in the same basket as Trump. He will certainly set relations with his allies back many decades, but it can quickly be fixed by who ever takes over from him. His term will end eventually, someone new will take over.
Trump represents the downfall of America. It had to come, all empires eventually fall, but I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime. That's until Trump came along. He's the thug trying to shake down the corner shop guy. All he is interested in is himself and the massive ego he uses to fill up the vacant useless space in his skull.
I'm sad to be here to see it happen. It's like watching the lingering death of a friend.
What I find very sad is even Republicans who don't like what Trump and Musk are doing tearing apart what the forefathers built don't have the courage to step forward and say it. To scared of losing their jobs!!!!
-VR
@sonhouse saidDo you understand what I said? Stop talking about people. Trump and Putin could be dead tomorrow, then you will have nothing to rant about. It is about a situation, and a principle.
It is MORONS like you who fall in line with Trump and Putin and BTW Russia is dancing in the street over this disgusting display of thuggery by Trump and Vance.
This turns our entire stance on end, Russia is our friend, Europeans are enemies.
Putin say gets 30% of Ukraine and Trump thinks that is the end of it.
It is fuuking HISTORY that appeasement NEVER works to stop a ...[text shortened]... R have something like that, US helping another NATO country because he IS a dictator in his own mind
Russia is a bully. It is important to do one of 2 things ... stop the bully with all the force you have, or allow him to take what he wants, understanding that later on you will have to stop him anyhow. This war is lost, and pumping in more money and time and destruction into it is futile.
The West is not clear on what they want to do hence the pussyfooting around for the last 3 years over Ukraine.
@sonhouse saidA deeply shameful day for America.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/28/trump-vance-and-zelenskyy-clash-at-white-house-ukraine-meeting.html
DISGUSTING. Putin is dancing in the streets.
PUTIN is our enemy, NOT UKRAINE,
Trump says Z is gambling with WW3.
The entire WORLD except the Russian alliance is aghast at this display of a thug Trump has shown himself to be to EVERYONE on the planet and OF COURSE it i ...[text shortened]... one who sides with Trump now is allied with Russia and we know here at RHP who those people will be.
History will remember it poorly.
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@Drewnogal saidI agree with this. It seemed planned. At one point zelensky was saying something calmly and jd Vance interrupted out of the blue to call him disrespectful. Hillbilly diplomacy.
There are suspicions now that the public row was - in the words of one diplomatic observer - a planned political mugging: either to force Zelensky to do America's bidding, or to precipitate a crisis that would allow them to blame him for whatever happens next.
Jeremy Bowen, BBC.
If you begin from "trump works for Russia" then everything starts to make sense.
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I say, “Time for a group hug”. As is the way of the forums we have the leftists and the righties at odds ( nothing new there) for a real look at that go no further than Debates. We adults can have discussions/verbal intercourse, without the need for school children like name calling…are “we” actually adults?🤔
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@wildgrass saidTrump insists the meeting be open to news organizations ("great television" in his words) and then Vance whines to Zelensky that he is being "disrespectful" to Trump in front of the media!
I agree with this. It seemed planned. At one point zelensky was saying something calmly and jd Vance interrupted out of the blue to call him disrespectful. Hillbilly diplomacy.
If you begin from "trump works for Russia" then everything starts to make sense.
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