@Rajk999 said117 billion in military aid is not pussyfooting around. I suppose what you would like to see is US sending a hundred thousand troops in Ukraine to kick Russia's butt.
Do you understand what I said? Stop talking about people. Trump and Putin could be dead tomorrow, then you will have nothing to rant about. It is about a situation, and a principle.
Russia is a bully. It is important to do one of 2 things ... stop the bully with all the force you have, or allow him to take what he wants, understanding that later on you will have to stop ...[text shortened]... s not clear on what they want to do hence the pussyfooting around for the last 3 years over Ukraine.
@sonhouse said""...and we know here at RHP who those people will be."
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and we know here at RHP who those people will be.
This is so comical, Shouse.
We also know who the people are on RHP who would put their muscular sons (oh, birth certificate males, BTW) in a race against my lithe blonde grandaughter!! We know where you live, Sonhouse.
What a joke.
@AverageJoe1 saidWe know who is a friend of the USA and who is not, and it is clear you are NOT a friend of the USA, just another propagandist for Trump who continues to spout Putin propaganda.
""...and we know here at RHP who those people will be."
This is so comical, Shouse.
We also know who the people are on RHP who would put their muscular sons (oh, birth certificate males, BTW) in a race against my lithe blonde grandaughter!! We know where you live, Sonhouse.
What a joke.
Tell us, whose side are you on? A POTUS who has totally shifted the world order aligning with Russia or are you with the adults in the room who wants to tell Europe we are still allies?
Do YOU want us to pull out of NATO and give Putin EVERYTHING he wants in Ukraine?
Do you think that will be all Putin will be after if that happens?
@Rajk999 saidYes it is a situation, a principle. Again, I emphasize that liberals go personal on every issue. He will not get what you are saying. Sueperson cannot write without being personal. And funny thing, one can hardly effectively be personal on such a Forum. Look at any Zahlanzi post, all emotional-personal. They do not know how to glean an issue out of a post.
Do you understand what I said? Stop talking about people. Trump and Putin could be dead tomorrow, then you will have nothing to rant about. It is about a situation, and a principle.
Russia is a bully. It is important to do one of 2 things ... stop the bully with all the force you have, or allow him to take what he wants, understanding that later on you will have to stop ...[text shortened]... s not clear on what they want to do hence the pussyfooting around for the last 3 years over Ukraine.
If gold disappeared tomorrow, instead of talking about the gold disappearing and what to do about it, they will decide who caused it, Trump, and write about that. All personal. It derives from their sense of mob relationships. They compare the creative differences in their riot signs, not about the message on the signs.
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@sonhouse saidIt could happen, and we could handle it. But let us not get the cart before the horse, y'all are an emotional bunch.
We know who is a friend of the USA and who is not, and it is clear you are NOT a friend of the USA, just another propagandist for Trump who continues to spout Putin propaganda.
Tell us, whose side are you on? A POTUS who has totally shifted the world order aligning with Russia or are you with the adults in the room who wants to tell Europe we are still allies?
Do YOU wa ...[text shortened]... EVERYTHING he wants in Ukraine?
Do you think that will be all Putin will be after if that happens?
First, we need to let yesterday's Oval play out. Note that Zelensky's main advisor demanded the 'signing' take place in the Oval, publicly. Not privately.
Bad Move, as it worked against Zelensky in the end. Remember the consummate games-man, Trump, that I mention often. He turned the event into putting Z on the defensive and his back against the wall. He made us see that Z was wasting our time, and that he should leave.
Trump won the day. I don't know what the hell you are talking about. Me, I am talking about Z's bad day, and waiting for the shoe to drop. THEN we can go to your issue about NATO and 'what i want'. Me, I want to continue the issue of signing the mineral agreement and that that entails. I assume it will happen, with Z in the proverbial corner.
So, we don't have to visit your idea of getting out of NATO. Cart before horse??
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@Great-Big-Stees saidSounds good, let Canada go broke supporting the rest of the "free world", we're sick of it..
We, Canada, will step up and take over as the “de facto” saviour of the Free World, as the incumbent, USA, has dropped the ball by seemingly siding with the Russians. Shame on you.😡😲
@AverageJoe1 saidTrump did not win the day. He lost what was left of his goodwill.
It could happen, and we could handle it. But let us not get the cart before the horse, y'all are an emotional bunch.
First, we need to let yesterday's Oval play out. Note that Zelensky's main advisor demanded the 'signing' take place in the Oval, publicly. Not privately.
Bad Move, as it worked against Zelensky in the end. Remember the consummate games-man, T ...[text shortened]... verbial corner.
So, we don't have to visit your idea of getting out of NATO. Cart before horse??
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@Cliff-Mashburn saidAs a person who believes in helping the less fortunate, send me your banking info and I will see to it that you get, at least enough to send it to the Nation” of your choice. Russia maybe?🤔
Sounds good, let Canada go broke supporting the rest of the "free world", we're sick of it..
@AverageJoe1 saidTrump wins every day according to you, being his most vocal ass kisser on this Forum. He is a brilliant light all should grovel before to pathetic sycophants like yourself.
It could happen, and we could handle it. But let us not get the cart before the horse, y'all are an emotional bunch.
First, we need to let yesterday's Oval play out. Note that Zelensky's main advisor demanded the 'signing' take place in the Oval, publicly. Not privately.
Bad Move, as it worked against Zelensky in the end. Remember the consummate games-man, T ...[text shortened]... verbial corner.
So, we don't have to visit your idea of getting out of NATO. Cart before horse??
He acted like the narcissistic little boy he always is, fuming that someone wouldn't bow to his demands. And Vance was the perfect side kick yes man.
Guess we won't be getting those trillions of dollars in minerals that was going to pay off the national debt you were crowing about all week. Shame.
@Torunn saidThis one says our president has no goodwill? The pres of the United States of America.
Trump did not win the day. He lost what was left of his goodwill.
Z walks into a room, with no cards (don't forget that part if you have any semblance of the nature of negotiations).
Z blows up his own agenda. It happened cause Z is a theatrical peson, and he forgot to deal with a president. He actually criticized his biggest backer after a nice casual 30 minute chat. Off the rails.
So this is what we get from Torunn. 'Trump loses goodwill'. All of you are observing Trump in an extremely shallow light.
@AverageJoe1 saidA president and true leader of the US does not behave as Trump - he has style and good manners.
This one says our president has no goodwill? The pres of the United States of America.
Z walks into a room, with no cards (don't forget that part if you have any semblance of the nature of negotiations).
Z blows up his own agenda. It happened cause Z is a theatrical peson, and he forgot to deal with a president. He actually criticized his biggest backer after a ...[text shortened]... from Torunn. 'Trump loses goodwill'. All of you are observing Trump in an extremely shallow light.
@no1marauder saidI've been wrong before. However, here I think T has him in a corner. You don't.
Trump wins every day according to you, being his most vocal ass kisser on this Forum. He is a brilliant light all should grovel before to pathetic sycophants like yourself.
He acted like the narcissistic little boy he always is, fuming that someone wouldn't bow to his demands. And Vance was the perfect side kick yes man.
Guess we won't be getting those trillions of ...[text shortened]... lars in minerals that was going to pay off the national debt you were crowing about all week. Shame.
That is why we have a Forum. And it is fun for me. Apparently not fun for ANY liberal such as yourself (oops, got personal).
We will wait and see. If the deal is signed, of course, you will acknowledge his negotitating expertise? You know that I will if he does not get what he wants. I think he and JD had a nice lunch after the Z blowup. If he had a plan, that could not have been it. Did someone here say schoolyard!
@AverageJoe1 saidYou and Trump are wrong. Ukraine has "cards" 900,000 troops in the field (some occupying Russian territory), more than a million in reserve and commitments of aid from many countries. True, Russian troops have made steady if minor gains over the last few years, but Ukraine is not prostrate as you and Trump believe.
I've been wrong before. However, here I think T has him in a corner. You don't.
That is why we have a Forum. And it is fun for me. Apparently not fun for ANY liberal such as yourself (oops, got personal).
We will wait and see. If the deal is signed, of course, you will acknowledge his negotitating expertise? You know that I will if he does not get what he w ...[text shortened]... fter the Z blowup. If he had a plan, that could not have been it. Did someone here say schoolyard!
A fair peace deal might be possible but Trump's hostility to Zelensky and being Putin's best pal doesn't help.
@Very-Rusty saidDo you not understand that the USA invaded Syria and supported a terrorist the USA had a hefty bounty on for being an Al Qaeda terrorist? Then they dropped the bounty in support of that terrorist.
Do you not understand that Putin invaded Ukraine???
What if a country invaded you country would you be ok with that. I THINK NOT!!!
Trump and Vance owe The Ukraine President an Apology. Trump is looking to win a Noble Peace Price, no matter what the cost to another country, he care more about Putin than he does Ukraine.
-VR
https://www.newsweek.com/us-remove-bounty-syrian-leader-al-qaeda-2004650
@Very-Rusty saidBecause the USA would do the same thing in the same circumstances.
Why do you think it is ok for Putin to INVADE another country. If it were your country you would singing a different tune, no doubt in my mind!!! You're a Trump Cultist!!!
-VR