@AverageJoe1
Ah, so bringing up facts about the voter suppression of republican states, I should just shut up and let it happen?
Oh, I forgot, all you are talking about is voter ID.
"It's not about voter suppression, we just want to make sure there is no fraud'.
Of course the actual level of fraud has been studied and found to have been about 1500 cases of voter fraud since 1980. WOW, SO MUCH FRAUD, enough to swing ANY election so we have to make sure everyone is vetted to vote.
You mean that kind of thing we dems keep harping on?
So we should just let it happen, where repubs set up a system allowing them to win election after election with voter suppression and gerymandering, and year after year, decade after decade repubs mysteriously keep winning even though the actual count of dems shows dems to be a majority in some red state.
Sure, we should just let it slide, OH WELL, that's how it plays there so we will just run with it.
And that is just ONE issue dems have about the sinister side of repub politics.
And yes we WILL keep harping on that till we have an actual democracy here in the US, not the fake variety repubs come up with in red states.
@AverageJoe1
You can bitch and mewl all you want about how many times I bring up such subjects and we will NEVER let it slide because repubs are all for minority rule and FUKKK democracy.
Did you think we forgot about the voter suppression and gerymandering going on in red states where minority rule there is the norm?
There is a history of that and until such sinister politics is struck out of our democracy, in those states is is NOT a democracy and that is exactly why we bitch about it and bring lawsuits to prove just how sinister such a political set up actually is, where say in Florida it is ok to ban books, ban teaching about slavery, can't go around upsetting those poor KKK folks now can we?
And you wonder why we keep harping on all that crap that you think is democracy?
@sonhouse saidYes, but you're avoiding 'put bleach up your ass'.
@AverageJoe1
You can bitch and mewl all you want about how many times I bring up such subjects and we will NEVER let it slide because repubs are all for minority rule and FUKKK democracy.
Did you think we forgot about the voter suppression and gerymandering going on in red states where minority rule there is the norm?
There is a history of that and until such sinister p ...[text shortened]... lks now can we?
And you wonder why we keep harping on all that crap that you think is democracy?
What's that about?
@sonhouse saidSHouse wants to chat about voter ballot news from the past. The Past. It is all about the past with Shoues.
@AverageJoe1
Ah, so bringing up facts about the voter suppression of republican states, I should just shut up and let it happen?
Oh, I forgot, all you are talking about is voter ID.
"It's not about voter suppression, we just want to make sure there is no fraud'.
Of course the actual level of fraud has been studied and found to have been about 1500 cases of voter fraud ...[text shortened]... we have an actual democracy here in the US, not the fake variety repubs come up with in red states.
The future looks so bright now that I am thinking about that.
Oh, gotta go, Biden is speaking. Wait, ,,,,,he just said "I know how to Tell the Truth!!!" But,, but, he lied, when he said he had not spoken to Hunter about his business. But he said he knows how to tell the truth? Snhouse can you respond to that, without mentioning Trump?
naaaa, prob not
@sonhouse saidHey, I have asked you to define democracy. Please? Oh, the Isael prottestors interrupted a gay Pride parade yesterday, and left trash that taxpayers have to pay for. Was that democratic, to do that? Was it ? To restrict their parade??
@AverageJoe1
You can bitch and mewl all you want about how many times I bring up such subjects and we will NEVER let it slide because repubs are all for minority rule and FUKKK democracy.
Did you think we forgot about the voter suppression and gerymandering going on in red states where minority rule there is the norm?
There is a history of that and until such sinister p ...[text shortened]... lks now can we?
And you wonder why we keep harping on all that crap that you think is democracy?
Ohhhh, Shouse
@AverageJoe1
Here is what democracy ISN'T: Red states thinking it is ok to make sinister voter suppression laws saying we are only interested in making sure there is no more of this vast number of OBVIOUS voter fraud and making up gerrymandering laws approved by of course the republican judges totally paving over democratic majorities in some cities so they keep themselves in power year after year and OF COURSE you would puke out THAT IS A LIE.
That is NOT democracy.
But that is exactly what you think is just fine.
You tell me if you think that is democracy.
@AverageJoe1
Voter suppression is a thing of the PAST? What kind of BS is that?
You think gerrymandering and voter suppression was started by TRUMP?
This is the way Rebubs play now and it could be Jim Jordan as POTUS if he won or DeSantis if HE won as POTUS, it doesn't matter who wins if it is a repub because all they want is power PROVEN history of power seeking no matter what repub is in office in any red state. THEY are the swamp and cannot STAND the idea there are folks out the with other ideas about how to run a country.
You know where in a democracy, if 51 % say we should run it THIS way and in our 200+ year history of peaceful transfer of power, which BTW is one DEFINITION of democracy, PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF POWER, which Trump HATES.
Another example of how Trumpism is NOT democracy.
@Wajoma
You figure it is ok for Trump to have brought up that BS while ignoring the actual death toll and doing ZERO about it.
Maybe you don't get that much TV coverage in your idealistic country but we all SAW exactly what he said and it was NOT make sure you wear masks or stay 6 feet away from folks or we know a crowd of ten thousand at a football game is a way covid virus spread so try to not go to such events as bad as that sounds, that is the way we keep people alive.
YOU EVER HEAR TRUMP SAY ANY OF THOSE THINGS?
NO, you hear him go 'we need to check out whether getting bleach inside you will kill covid, or putting strong lights, and he DID use the phrase UV about that, somehow put UV inside your body and that kills COVID.
So you didn't watch that POS show?
We put up the links to that garbage already but you ignored it.
@sonhouse saidFraudci has admitted the 6ft distancing thing 'just appeared' no studies, no evidence, no reason other than to push people around.
@Wajoma
You figure it is ok for Trump to have brought up that BS while ignoring the actual death toll and doing ZERO about it.
Maybe you don't get that much TV coverage in your idealistic country but we all SAW exactly what he said and it was NOT make sure you wear masks or stay 6 feet away from folks or we know a crowd of ten thousand at a football game is a way covid vir ...[text shortened]... o you didn't watch that POS show?
We put up the links to that garbage already but you ignored it.
I didn't social distance, wear a mask, take the juice, uv treatment, bump elbows (shake hands like a man) none of it. And haven't had wuflu yet.
More than once I've posted numbers that show you were more likely to get wuflu after taking the seizure syrup, and we've seen you bragging up how many shots you've taken and how many times you've had wuflu and how many exit lights you've checked.
@sonhouse saidNo you first. You can't, because you only say what it isn't. Well, my def is that it is not a bottle of ketchup.
@AverageJoe1
Here is what democracy ISN'T: Red states thinking it is ok to make sinister voter suppression laws saying we are only interested in making sure there is no more of this vast number of OBVIOUS voter fraud and making up gerrymandering laws approved by of course the republican judges totally paving over democratic majorities in some cities so they keep themselves ...[text shortened]... cy.
But that is exactly what you think is just fine.
You tell me if you think that is democracy.
@sonhouse saidYou write everything that comes into your mind, one after another, zombie like.
@AverageJoe1
Voter suppression is a thing of the PAST? What kind of BS is that?
You think gerrymandering and voter suppression was started by TRUMP?
This is the way Rebubs play now and it could be Jim Jordan as POTUS if he won or DeSantis if HE won as POTUS, it doesn't matter who wins if it is a repub because all they want is power PROVEN history of power seeking no mat ...[text shortened]... PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF POWER, which Trump HATES.
Another example of how Trumpism is NOT democracy.
@AverageJoe1
I am talking about repub political reality and all you want to do is distract from that obvious reality so maybe we will just fall down and play dead and let the coming dictatorship happen and OH WELL, it was just inevitable.....
@AverageJoe1
I don't give a rats ass what YOUR definition of democracy is because you are totally biased against what we have now.
As it is now we have the electoral college like it or not, that is how our version of democracy runs.
Now you may like to eliminate the EC and that is a pretty justified stance, a LOT of people feel the same including me, but we have it and that is not going to change and if you think Trump being a real dictator is going to help that situation think again.
If we DID eliminate the EC Trump would never have been elected in the first place because Clinton had WAY more popular votes than Trump so that worked out perfectly well for you, so what is your bitch about how our version of democracy plays?
It works out really well for the voter suppression and gerrymandering crowd and why would ANY repub want to change that?
@Wajoma
Hey ASSSHOLE, tell that to the million folks in America who are dead and then when the vaccine became available the death rate fell to next to nothing and those who are vaxxed and get covid anyway don't go to hospital because the disease has been mostly under control and a covid infection is now more like a cold and not a potential death sentence.
@sonhouse saidDodge, dodgey dodge dodger.
@Wajoma
Hey ASSSHOLE, tell that to the million folks in America who are dead and then when the vaccine became available the death rate fell to next to nothing and those who are vaxxed and get covid anyway don't go to hospital because the disease has been mostly under control and a covid infection is now more like a cold and not a potential death sentence.