@medullah
It might be entertainment if it was a reality tv show but this is real reality.
Trump has screwed up the whole planet, dissing US allies, calling our military men stupid, and was impeached but let off by the gutless senate, and now another pressure 'perfect' phone call to the Georgia sec. of state, give me 11,780 votes (so I can win Georgia by one vote).
@metal-brain saidI only listened to about 50 minutes of it.
"Did you hear the full 60 minutes?"
You obviously didn't. If you had you would have noticed it was closer to 2 hours.
LOL!
Pathetic whining scumbag, trump is, he really got on my tits.
@metal-brain saidMy source is the horse's mouth... Regardless of any real evidence, he was setting the seeds of election fraud since at least 2012
What is your source of information?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948872192284155904
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/694964856609439745
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/29/all-the-elections-trump-has-claimed-were-stolen-through-voter-fraud/
@wildgrass saidThat wasn't about mail in voting. That was about voting illegally.
My source is the horse's mouth... Regardless of any real evidence, he was setting the seeds of election fraud since at least 2012
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948872192284155904
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/694964856609439745
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/29/all-the-elections-trump-has-claimed-were-stolen-through-voter-fraud/
@shavixmir saidThen you don't know what was all said.
I only listened to about 50 minutes of it.
Pathetic whining scumbag, trump is, he really got on my tits.
@metal-brain saidIt's all versions of the same thing. The FBI is rigged. The Iowa Caucus is rigged. The court system is rigged against me. Even the Emmy's were rigged when he didn't win one. I'm the only winner, and anyone else who beats me did it illegitimately.
That wasn't about mail in voting. That was about voting illegally.
Over and over until people believe it. All versions of the same thing. I alone can fix it.
For years and years the Trump team preemptively asserted that this election would be rigged and took no specific actions to correct whatever legal grievance they did or didn't have. And just like any good conspiracy, the absence of evidence is even better proof that the conspiracy exists than evidence in its favor.
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@wildgrass saidHey! News flash. Voter fraud really does happen.
It's all versions of the same thing. The FBI is rigged. The Iowa Caucus is rigged. The court system is rigged against me. Even the Emmy's were rigged when he didn't win one. I'm the only winner, and anyone else who beats me did it illegitimately.
Over and over until people believe it. All versions of the same thing. I alone can fix it.
For years and years the Trump t ...[text shortened]... the absence of evidence is even better proof that the conspiracy exists than evidence in its favor.
I would want someone bringing attention to it rather than letting it happen. You seem to be condoning voter fraud. Are you really that convinced Biden did win because of a rigged election? Why else would you condone voter fraud?
You must secretly believe his conspiracy theories. Why else would you condone voter fraud?
"Trump team preemptively asserted that this election would be rigged and took no specific actions to correct whatever legal grievance they did or didn't have."
What legal actions could he have taken at the time? If you insist that is possible then show me what he could have done. He couldn't even keep the PA supreme court from breaking the state's own election laws.
Be specific. What could he have done?
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@metal-brain saidAnd you do.
Then you don't know what was all said.
If you listen to 50 minutes of the tape, are you seriously suggesting that the rest places everything he says in a different context.
Oh, I beg you sir, please quote us this context which is so alternative to him being a lying, criminal scumbag!
And, by the way, what 2 hours?
@metal-brain saidYes, voter fraud happens. Obviously. What allegation of fraud are you referring to? Are you saying that Trump proved the Emmy's were rigged?
Hey! News flash. Voter fraud really does happen.
I would want someone bringing attention to it rather than letting it happen. You seem to be condoning voter fraud. Are you really that convinced Biden did win because of a rigged election? Why else would you condone voter fraud?
You must secretly believe his conspiracy theories. Why else would you condone voter fraud ...[text shortened]... supreme court from breaking the state's own election laws.
Be specific. What could he have done?
You should really read the judge's rulings. It's not about the existence of fraud, it's about the impact of that fraud. At no point in any court hearing did any of the Trump lawyers argue that the fraud changed the outcome.
Trump is not bringing attention to fraud. We all know fraud exists. Trump is alleging fraud in its absence. Nothing was ever specifically brought to attention regarding the caucus that Trump lost to Ted Cruz in 2016. The only reason that it was alleged that Cruz cheated and stole that win is because Trump lost. Is that bringing attention to fraud or whining? This boy's cried wolf too many times for me to ever believe him.
You need to stop writing that the PA Supreme court broke it's own election law. The court does not write laws, nor does it act in any capacity that would allow it to break the law.
@shavixmir saidWhich quote are you referring to? Do you have an example?
And you do.
If you listen to 50 minutes of the tape, are you seriously suggesting that the rest places everything he says in a different context.
Oh, I beg you sir, please quote us this context which is so alternative to him being a lying, criminal scumbag!
And, by the way, what 2 hours?
@wildgrass said"The court does not write laws, nor does it act in any capacity that would allow it to break the law."
Yes, voter fraud happens. Obviously. What allegation of fraud are you referring to? Are you saying that Trump proved the Emmy's were rigged?
You should really read the judge's rulings. It's not about the existence of fraud, it's about the impact of that fraud. At no point in any court hearing did any of the Trump lawyers argue that the fraud changed the outcome.
Trump ...[text shortened]... The court does not write laws, nor does it act in any capacity that would allow it to break the law.
Are you claiming the PA supreme court did not violate their own election laws without congressional approval? The Trump team said only the state legislative branch could change those laws. That is what the case was about. They also claimed that was in violation of the US Constitution.
You really should have read up on all of this before debating.
@metal-brain saidRead up on what? You don't understand what you're writing about. The Courts do not write laws, in this case they were interpreting whether a law was written consistent with their states constitution.
"The court does not write laws, nor does it act in any capacity that would allow it to break the law."
Are you claiming the PA supreme court did not violate their own election laws without congressional approval? The Trump team said only the state legislative branch could change those laws. That is what the case was about. They also claimed that was in violation of the US Constitution.
You really should have read up on all of this before debating.
And again, this is a good example of potential legal action that would not have had a meaningful impact. They know exactly how many ballots were postmarked on the deadline but arrived later. While it might have affected the overall number, there weren't enough of them to change the outcome. Case dismissed.
@shavixmir saidI listened to about 5 minutes and thought that I heard enough.
And you do.
If you listen to 50 minutes of the tape, are you seriously suggesting that the rest places everything he says in a different context.
Oh, I beg you sir, please quote us this context which is so alternative to him being a lying, criminal scumbag!
And, by the way, what 2 hours?
@metal-brain saidIf you have moved on, why start a thread "Trump team: specific evidence on Jan. 6th" when we both know there is no evidence of sufficient quality and credibility to annul the EC vote when Congress meets on Wednesday? Trump and co. will do nothing but repeat the same fact-free allegations of fraud he has been peddling like snake oil for the past several years.
I have.
Try reading my posts.