@metal-brain saidIf there were no election fraud there would be no evidence and the baseless accusations of fraud would be tossed out by the judge OH WAIT that's what happened.
The glaring weak spot in democracy is that evidence is rarely heard because court cases are dismissed on procedural grounds.
If there was no election fraud the evidence would be welcomed instead of suppressed so nobody can hear an honest debate on it. That will change in 4 days. 🙂
@AThousandYoung
You can't 'argue' with a troll like Metal head. He is an avowed conspiracy nut and will keep up with it year after year no matter what is proven.
He refuses to accept the whole 60 lawsuits was just a ploy to gain support so Trump can get hundreds of millions he begged for on Twitter.
In that regard, the lawsuits won spectacularly.
That was the whole point of those suits, it had nothing to do with law.
It is called grift.
@athousandyoung saidNotice I said "rarely" and not never. Let's make it a game. I'll name a court case that heard no evidence and you name one with and we will see how far you get. I'll start.
If there were no election fraud there would be no evidence and the baseless accusations of fraud would be tossed out by the judge OH WAIT that's what happened.
SCOTUS.
Your turn.
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@sonhouse saidSo you have a conspiracy theory that Trump is raising money and not using it for said purpose?
@AThousandYoung
You can't 'argue' with a troll like Metal head. He is an avowed conspiracy nut and will keep up with it year after year no matter what is proven.
He refuses to accept the whole 60 lawsuits was just a ploy to gain support so Trump can get hundreds of millions he begged for on Twitter.
In that regard, the lawsuits won spectacularly.
That was the whole point of those suits, it had nothing to do with law.
It is called grift.
You are the conspiracy nut projecting your own shame onto others. You apparently hate yourself for your own conspiracy theories.
@metal-brain saidBasket case.
So you have a conspiracy theory that Trump is raising money and not using it for said purpose?
You are the conspiracy nut projecting your own shame onto others. You apparently hate yourself for your own conspiracy theories.
@metal-brain saidhttps://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bowyer_v._Ducey
Notice I said "rarely" and not never. Let's make it a game. I'll name a court case that heard no evidence and you name one with and we will see how far you get. I'll start.
SCOTUS.
Your turn.
Just read the conclusion:
Not only have Plaintiffs failed to provide the Court with factual support for their extraordinary claims, but they have wholly failed to establish that they have standing for the Court to consider them. Allegations that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court. They most certainly cannot be the basis for upending Arizona’s 2020 General Election. The Court is left with no alternative but to dismiss this matter in its entirety.
And since not everybody is a legal scholar like you: "support for extraordinary claims" would be evidence.
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@ponderable saidWas it dismissed on standing or on the merits?
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bowyer_v._Ducey
Just read the conclusion:
[quote]Not only have Plaintiffs failed to provide the Court with factual support for their extraordinary claims, but they have wholly failed to establish that they have standing for the Court to consider them. Allegations that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a su ...[text shortened]... nce not everybody is a legal scholar like you: "support for extraordinary claims" would be evidence.
I didn't claim they were all dismissed on standing though. Are you trying to prove something?
The plaintiffs filed an appeal.
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@metal-brain saidLook you halfwit there are no court cases where the evidence is not presented in some form, the fact that so few of them got an official hearing and when they did get one they were aggressively chucked out of court tells anyone but an imbecile or liar that there was NO EVIDENCE. Furthermore if there was any actual non comedic evidence I’m sure a reputable source would have it in print or on the web by now.
Notice I said "rarely" and not never. Let's make it a game. I'll name a court case that heard no evidence and you name one with and we will see how far you get. I'll start.
SCOTUS.
Your turn.
@kevcvs57 saidThat is not true.
Look you halfwit there are no court cases where the evidence is not presented in some form, the fact that so few of them got an official hearing and when they did get one they were aggressively chucked out of court tells anyone but an imbecile or liar that there was NO EVIDENCE. Furthermore if there was any actual non comedic evidence I’m sure a reputable source would have it in print or on the web by now.
Prove it or stop lying.
@metal-brain saidNo you prove just one thing that your claiming about the election or take your lying pathetic caricature off this forum.
That is not true.
Prove it or stop lying.
@metal-brain saidYou left one off. It's the dirty dozen, not eleven.
Signers from the Senate:
Cruz
Johnson
Lankford
Daines
Kennedy
Blackburn
Braun
Lummis
Marshall
Hagerty
Tuberville
A debate will happen. It is a done deal.
@Metal-Brain
Are you really that naive? Those assswipes are doing this so they can pander to the Trump base when he is gone so they will have Trump crowd street creds.
There is ZERO in there to see. The whole point of the 60 odd court cases was to generate interest in the Trump base so he could collect those hundreds of millions of dollars.
And BTW, he CAN spend it any way he wants. It is all legal and he can buy another Mara Lago if he wants.
One thing he would NEVER do: Draw down his 400 million debt, his response to debt collectors: SCREW YOU, so SUE me assshole.