@sonhouse saidMore bullshot,
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-north-carolina-vote-twice-mail-in-ballots?ocid=uxbndlbing
He doesn't care it is illegal, he pushes illegal all the time.
“On Election Day, or Early Voting, go to your Polling Place to see whether or not your Mail In Vote has been Tabulated (Counted)," the president continued. "If it has you will not be able to Vote & the Mail In System worked properly. If it has not been Counted, VOTE (which is a citizen’s right to do).”
What he is saying is, if you mail in voted did not count, go vote.
it's that little word there, if
The devil in the details, eh, sonhouse?
@sonhouse saidSure, if you already believe a thousand bad things about Pres. Trump, his words on the topic will be irrelevant.
@Philokalia
You are seriously deluded if you think TRUMP wants to prevent fraud.
Trump IS fraud, has been his entire life and if you don't believe me read the book his niece wrote, "Too much and never enough". It is an eye opener. Trump is not the person his base thinks he is.
But as Pres. Trump sounded perfectly reasonable in his claims, it is not enough to just question his motivation and accuse him of the worse.
@philokalia saidThat any person who grew up in any democracy can call it reasonable that the head of the administration is calling people to "test" the system by trying to do something illegal is beyond my understanding.
Sure, if you already believe a thousand bad things about Pres. Trump, his words on the topic will be irrelevant.
But as Pres. Trump sounded perfectly reasonable in his claims, it is not enough to just question his motivation and accuse him of the worse.
That "conservatives" would endorse such a behaviour is even more beyond my intellectual capacity.
For people with difficulties in understanding: One person one vote. If you try to cast more you are doing democracy a disservice. If you are fined for that behaviour (which is not only reasonable (the fining) but necessary) don't whine it is just what you have to pay for the unreasonable president whose advice you followed.
@ponderable saidSo, you are saying that the system is broken, and that it would be easy for millions of people to commit election fraud by sending in both a mail-in ballot and voting in person..?
That any person who grew up in any democracy can call it reasonable that the head of the administration is calling people to "test" the system by trying to do something illegal is beyond my understanding.
That "conservatives" would endorse such a behaviour is even more beyond my intellectual capacity.
For people with difficulties in understanding: One person one vote ...[text shortened]... on't whine it is just what you have to pay for the unreasonable president whose advice you followed.
If that is the case, then there are some very massive issues with the American electoral process and Trump's concerns are entirely vindicated...
... Do you think he is somehow privy to inside information about how easy it would be to commit fraud?
Amazing.
@philokalia saidI'm a federal postal employee, and I am offended that the president of the United States can get away with claiming that my occupation, for which I took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against enemies, foreign and domestic, allows any degree of fraud whatsoever. I'm especially offended by this because fraud is his middle name. He has a long history of fraudulent activities, and for him to question my loyalty to this country and the sanctity of its mail system is beyond the pale. I've done this job since well before he took office, and I'll still be doing it to the best of my ability long after he is gone. For him to foment doubt about the security of the mail is to insult every postal employee in the Postal Service. We took an oath that we believe in. Too bad he wipes his ass with his own oath every single day.
This is a transparently misleading claim, considering that this is written in the very article you posted:
[quote]“On Election Day, or Early Voting, go to your Polling Place to see whether or not your Mail In Vote has been Tabulated (Counted)," the president continued. "If it has you will not be able to Vote & the Mail In System worked properly. If it has not been Count ...[text shortened]...
It sounds like he is skeptical of the mail in voting system and is trying to prevent fraud.
@philokalia saidNo. That is not what I said. I say the system is not broken (probably).
So, you are saying that the system is broken, and that it would be easy for millions of people to commit election fraud by sending in both a mail-in ballot and voting in person..?
If that is the case, then there are some very massive issues with the American electoral process and Trump's concerns are entirely vindicated...
... Do you think he is somehow privy to inside information about how easy it would be to commit fraud?
Amazing.
Everyone who is following the advice of the president to break the law intentionally should be fiuned by the maximum amount of money applicable (because inetntional).
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@averagejoe1 saidHowbout this? Go shoot someone in a crowded public place, to test the system. See whether the police show up and arrest the shooter. If not, keep shooting until they do. Not incitement to crime, no not at all, just testing the system.
@AverageJoe1 Please see exactly what his point is, save us a lot of typing at cocktail hour:
"Let them send it in and go vote, and if th System is as good as they say it is, then obviously WON'T BE ABLE TO VOTE."
Do you folks not see that he simply wants to test the system to be sure that there is no fraud by either side? Would you not WANT that? Or do you hat ...[text shortened]... y will not be able to vote that second time. They Will Not Be Able to Vote That Second Time. Whew.
Or this: falsify your tax returns, just to see whether the IRS catches it, test the system.
Murder is a crime. Attempted murder is also a crime.
Robbing a bank is a crime. Attempting to rob a bank is also a crime.
Voting more than once is a crime. Attempting to is also a crime.
The president is inciting voters to criminal acts. Get with it.
@earl-of-trumps saidAre you sure your quoting verbatim here?
More bullshot,
“On Election Day, or Early Voting, go to your Polling Place to see whether or not your Mail In Vote has been Tabulated (Counted)," the president continued. "If it has you will not be able to Vote & the Mail In System worked properly. If it has not been Counted, VOTE (which is a citizen’s right to do).”
What he is saying is, if you mail in vo ...[text shortened]... count, go vote.
it's that little word there, if
The devil in the details, eh, sonhouse?
I watched the interview and I’m pretty sure he said go to your polling station and try to vote twice to see if the system is working. But it would also result in a fraudulent vote for him.
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@averagejoe1 saidJust more wrong-headed trumpian philosophy.
@AverageJoe1 Please see exactly what his point is, save us a lot of typing at cocktail hour:
"Let them send it in and go vote, and if th System is as good as they say it is, then obviously WON'T BE ABLE TO VOTE."
Do you folks not see that he simply wants to test the system to be sure that there is no fraud by either side? Would you not WANT that? Or do you hat ...[text shortened]... y will not be able to vote that second time. They Will Not Be Able to Vote That Second Time. Whew.
It's as if the man can absolutely do no wrong in the eyes of "ye faithful".
How about the stark hypocrisy of trump disparaging the potential mailed-in votes of every State "except Florida".
I guess we're just so much smarter here. (Or... perhaps he knows someone here just as corrupt as himself?)
Seriously. Have y'all left no shame? 🙄
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@suzianne saidpostal employees have a reputation for coming in and shooting up the place, even so much a term was coined, “going postal”, please stop with your righteous indignation.
I'm a federal postal employee, and I am offended that the president of the United States can get away with claiming that my occupation, for which I took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against enemies, foreign and domestic, allows any degree of fraud whatsoever. I'm especially offended by this because fraud is his middle name. He has a long h ...[text shortened]... . We took an oath that we believe in. Too bad he wipes his ass with his own oath every single day.