U.S. liberals diminishing

Originally posted by utherpendragon
Americans who consider themselves conservatives now outnumber Americans who consider themselves liberal by almost two to one, according to a new poll by the Washington Post and ABC News.

In the poll of 1,001 adults conducted between July 15-18, respondents were asked: "Would you say your views on most political matters are liberal, moderate, or con ...[text shortened]... oof that the RHP liberal looney bin is not main stream american thought
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We're not diminishing. We just call ourselves "progressives" now 😉

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
We're not diminishing. We just call ourselves "progressives" now 😉

More like, "socialist" 🙂

Originally posted by utherpendragon
More like, "socialist" 🙂

Nooooo! Never the S word. We're "forward-thinkers". We want a level playing field for everyone, regardless of the circumstances that the "lottery of life" has placed them....😀

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Nooooo! Never the S word. We're "forward-thinkers". We want a level playing field for everyone, regardless of the circumstances that the "lottery of life" has placed them....😀

can we please not resort to more strawman arguments?

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Nooooo! Never the S word. We're "forward-thinkers". We want a level playing field for everyone, regardless of the circumstances that the "lottery of life" has placed them....😀

Right! "socialist"
"Level playing field" I like that. Redistribute the wealth,right?

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Nooooo! Never the S word. We're "forward-thinkers". We want a level playing field for everyone, regardless of the circumstances that the "lottery of life" has placed them....😀

The American Dream, such a terrible concept!

Originally posted by utherpendragon
Right! "socialist"
"Level playing field" I like that. Redistribute the wealth,right?

In general, everyone agrees with the basic idea of free competition - where people who produce more should make more money, and those who produce less should have to make do with less.

The argument is how much we should do to

1 - assure that everyone has access to things like education, training, and whatever they need to maximize their ability to "produce" -- people shouldn't be poor just because they couldn't afford the education needed to develop their talents

2 - assure that everyone who's willing to work is able to attain a certain standard of living -- some level of food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc

unless the free market can supply all of these things without government intervention, both involve a "redistribution of wealth" or "socialism".

there's a broad agreement among the American people (and people in general) that these two goals are important - with much disagreement over what programs work best to meet these goals or how much money should spent on them. So to some extent, just about EVERYONE is a socialist favoring a redistribution of wealth.

Originally posted by Melanerpes
In general, everyone agrees with the basic idea of free competition - where people who produce more should make more money, and those who produce less should have to make do with less.

The argument is how much we should do to

1 - assure that everyone has access to things like education, training, and whatever they need to maximize their ability to " ...[text shortened]... o some extent, just about EVERYONE is a socialist favoring a redistribution of wealth.

Government intervention = the initiation of force and threats of force.

So, no, just about EVERYONE is not a socialist.

Originally posted by generalissimo
can we please not resort to more strawman arguments?

It was a joke, son! 😛

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
It was a joke, son! 😛

are we going to have double-standards?

are you trying to be the conservative version of bill178?

Originally posted by generalissimo
are we going to have double-standards?

are you trying to be the conservative version of bill178?

I have no idea what a bill178 is, conservative version or no. And since I'm not for double-standards, I find your post is incomprehensible. 🙄🙄

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
I have no idea what a bill178 is, conservative version or no. And since I'm not for double-standards, I find your post is incomprehensible. 🙄🙄

http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=280685

Originally posted by generalissimo
http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=280685

Oh please--a player's profile? Does anybody actually read 'em?

Thanks for clearing up the mystery for me, though.

Originally posted by utherpendragon
start a stock pile of kleenex because your gonna need it in the next elections.

2010 maybe, but not 2012.

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
We're not diminishing. We just call ourselves "progressives" now 😉

Good point. My aunt says she's not liberal; she's progressive.