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Originally posted by utherpendragon
Americans who consider themselves conservatives now outnumber Americans who consider themselves liberal by almost two to one, according to a new poll by the Washington Post and ABC News.

In the poll of 1,001 adults conducted between July 15-18, respondents were asked: "Would you say your views on most political matters are liberal, moderate, or con ...[text shortened]... oof that the RHP liberal looney bin is not main stream american thought

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We're not diminishing. We just call ourselves "progressives" now 😉

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
We're not diminishing. We just call ourselves "progressives" now 😉
More like, "socialist" 🙂

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
More like, "socialist" 🙂
Nooooo! Never the S word. We're "forward-thinkers". We want a level playing field for everyone, regardless of the circumstances that the "lottery of life" has placed them....😀

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Nooooo! Never the S word. We're "forward-thinkers". We want a level playing field for everyone, regardless of the circumstances that the "lottery of life" has placed them....😀
can we please not resort to more strawman arguments?

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Nooooo! Never the S word. We're "forward-thinkers". We want a level playing field for everyone, regardless of the circumstances that the "lottery of life" has placed them....😀
Right! "socialist"
"Level playing field" I like that. Redistribute the wealth,right?

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Nooooo! Never the S word. We're "forward-thinkers". We want a level playing field for everyone, regardless of the circumstances that the "lottery of life" has placed them....😀
The American Dream, such a terrible concept!

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
Right! "socialist"
"Level playing field" I like that. Redistribute the wealth,right?
In general, everyone agrees with the basic idea of free competition - where people who produce more should make more money, and those who produce less should have to make do with less.

The argument is how much we should do to

1 - assure that everyone has access to things like education, training, and whatever they need to maximize their ability to "produce" -- people shouldn't be poor just because they couldn't afford the education needed to develop their talents

2 - assure that everyone who's willing to work is able to attain a certain standard of living -- some level of food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc

unless the free market can supply all of these things without government intervention, both involve a "redistribution of wealth" or "socialism".

there's a broad agreement among the American people (and people in general) that these two goals are important - with much disagreement over what programs work best to meet these goals or how much money should spent on them. So to some extent, just about EVERYONE is a socialist favoring a redistribution of wealth.

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Originally posted by Melanerpes
In general, everyone agrees with the basic idea of free competition - where people who produce more should make more money, and those who produce less should have to make do with less.

The argument is how much we should do to

1 - assure that everyone has access to things like education, training, and whatever they need to maximize their ability to " ...[text shortened]... o some extent, just about EVERYONE is a socialist favoring a redistribution of wealth.
Government intervention = the initiation of force and threats of force.

So, no, just about EVERYONE is not a socialist.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
can we please not resort to more strawman arguments?
It was a joke, son! 😛

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
It was a joke, son! 😛
are we going to have double-standards?

are you trying to be the conservative version of bill178?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
are we going to have double-standards?

are you trying to be the conservative version of bill178?
I have no idea what a bill178 is, conservative version or no. And since I'm not for double-standards, I find your post is incomprehensible. 🙄🙄

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
I have no idea what a bill178 is, conservative version or no. And since I'm not for double-standards, I find your post is incomprehensible. 🙄🙄
http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=280685

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=280685
Oh please--a player's profile? Does anybody actually read 'em?

Thanks for clearing up the mystery for me, though.

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
start a stock pile of kleenex because your gonna need it in the next elections.
2010 maybe, but not 2012.

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
We're not diminishing. We just call ourselves "progressives" now 😉
Good point. My aunt says she's not liberal; she's progressive.

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