USA opposes international criminal court

@kevcvs57 said
There is no need to present anything everyone can see what the Russian army has done in the cities I mentioned and is now doing to the cities of Ukraine it’s not up for debate by anyone but a blatantly disingenuous propagandist.
Do you think you are fooling anyone?

Do you really think you can fool everyone?

@metal-brain said
USA Admits Fake News: Railway Station Bombing by Ukrainian Forces.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/railway-station-bombing-ukrainian-forces-usa-admits-fake-news-ukrainian-bodies-cant-keep-still/5777157

You, sir, are a propagandist.

The video you say "admits fake news", was made by Harley Schlanger of The LaRouche Organization.

From the website of The LaRouche Organization (https://laroucheorganization.com ) from their About page:

"The sole purpose of The LaRouche Organization (TLO) is the dissemination of the ideas of Lyndon LaRouche and the spread of his life’s work, his analytical and scientific method of thinking, with the intention of realizing the solutions he offered to the many crises now facing mankind."

Lyndon LaRouche's Wikipedia page has this: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche)

"LaRouche was commonly regarded as a conspiracy theorist: for example, in his Fox News obituary. An article in the Southern Poverty Law Center website names him as "a fringe ideologue and conspiracy theorist whom Chip Berlet, senior analyst at Political Research Associates and an expert on the radical right calls "the man who brought us fascism wrapped in an American flag". An NPR obituary is titled Conspiracy Theorist And Frequent Presidential Candidate Lyndon LaRouche Dies At 96. The Washington Post obituary reports he was "often described as an extremist crank and fringe figure" and that he "built a worldwide following based on conspiracy theories, economic doom, anti-Semitism, homophobia and racism"."

and

"Despite LaRouche's self-identification with the left and some left-wing policies, his critics have said that he had "fascistic tendencies", took positions on the far right, and created disinformation."

And this, from the LaRouche Movement Wikipedia page: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaRouche_movement)

"Though often dismissed as a bizarre political cult, the LaRouche organization and its various front groups are a fascist movement whose pronouncements echo elements of Nazi ideology. Beginning in the 1970s, the LaRouchites combined populist antielitism with attacks on leftists, environmentalists, feminists, gay men and lesbians, and organized labor. They advocated a dictatorship in which a 'humanist' elite would rule on behalf of industrial capitalists. They developed an idiosyncratic, coded variation on the Illuminati Freemason and Jewish banker conspiracy theories. Their views, though exotic, were internally consistent and rooted in right-wing populist traditions."

and

"In the summer of 2009, LaRouche followers came under criticism from both Democrats and Republicans for comparing President Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler. Media figures as politically diverse as Rush Limbaugh and Jon Stewart criticized the comparison."

@suzianne said
You, sir, are a propagandist.

The video you say "admits fake news", was made by Harley Schlanger of The LaRouche Organization.

From the website of The LaRouche Organization (https://laroucheorganization.com ) from their About page:

"The sole purpose of The LaRouche Organization (TLO) is the dissemination of the ideas of Lyndon LaRouche and the spread of his life’s ...[text shortened]... r. Media figures as politically diverse as Rush Limbaugh and Jon Stewart criticized the comparison."

I didn't watch any video. These are pictures of a Tochka-U missile that was fired.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61036740

I have no idea why you think the maker of a video proves anything. Don't you know attacking the source constantly makes you look pathetic? You are not debating, you are trolling irrelevant BS.

President Barack Obama overthrew Ukraine in a bloody coup and installed neo Nazis in the Ukraine government. The comparison to Hitler is justified.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2011/S00116/how-the-western-press-lied-about-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine-pretending-that-it-was-instead-a-real-democratic-revolution.htm

@eintaluj said
Do you really think you can fool everyone?

Fortunately I do not need to the bombed out cities are there for anyone to see.
Stop lying and stop being stupid and especially stop supporting Putin’s war crimes and potential genocide in Ukraine by pretending that they are not happening.

@kevcvs57 said
Fortunately I do not need to the bombed out cities are there for anyone to see.
Stop lying and stop being stupid and especially stop supporting Putin’s war crimes and potential genocide in Ukraine by pretending that they are not happening.

Do you support the USA signing the ICC agreement?
Yes or no?

@metal-brain said
Do you support the USA signing the ICC agreement?
Yes or no?

Do you support the LaRouche Organization?

Yes or no?

@metal-brain said
Do you support the USA signing the ICC agreement?
Yes or no?

I’m British, I really do not care what the USA signs.
I don’t care if Putin ends up in The Hague, I just want him dead or deposed.
The moral impact of certain behaviours being designated as war crimes is more important than some leader of any country being put in a physical dock.
The systematic destruction of areas known to contain civilians for the purpose of demoralising the enemy is a classic war crime, the consequential killing or injuring of civilians whilst targeting a threat is a bit more complex. The best designation that covers everything done by the attacking nation or entity is the ‘Crime of Aggression’ that would cover the current conflict in Ukraine and some previous US / NATO aggressions.

@kevcvs57 said
I’m British, I really do not care what the USA signs.
I don’t care if Putin ends up in The Hague, I just want him dead or deposed.
The moral impact of certain behaviours being designated as war crimes is more important than some leader of any country being put in a physical dock.
The systematic destruction of areas known to contain civilians for the purpose of demorali ...[text shortened]... ggression’ that would cover the current conflict in Ukraine and some previous US / NATO aggressions.

What about GW Bush? Do you want him dead or deposed?

Your moral outrage at war crimes does not seem to concern you with anyone other than Putin. The UK signed onto the ICC. Isn't Tony Blair guilty of war crimes in Iraq?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55247033

Why do you condone selective justice? You will not hold your own war criminals responsible and punish them. That is because of the propaganda you have been indoctrinated with. You know fully well there is a bias against Russia on your news media, yet you convince yourself bias is not a euphemism for propaganda.

Or maybe you accept it is propaganda and feel it is necessary to get people to support the right policies. Is that it? Do people need to be deceived by the ruling class because they know better than the rest of us?

@metal-brain said
I didn't watch any video. These are pictures of a Tochka-U missile that was fired.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61036740

I have no idea why you think the maker of a video proves anything. Don't you know attacking the source constantly makes you look pathetic? You are not debating, you are trolling irrelevant BS.

President Barack Obama overthrew Ukraine ...[text shortened]... -lied-about-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine-pretending-that-it-was-instead-a-real-democratic-revolution.htm

Moron.

@shavixmir said
He is correct though. The US does not recognise the ICC. And went so far as to pass a law that they find they have the right to invade the Netherlands if they put US citizens on trial.

The US is evil.

" And went so far as to pass a law that they find they have the right to invade the Netherlands if they put US citizens on trial. "

Really?

@metal-brain said
" And went so far as to pass a law that they find they have the right to invade the Netherlands if they put US citizens on trial. "

Really?

Yes.
Google: American Service-Members' Protection Act

@shavixmir said
Yes.

Can you provide me with a link?

@shavixmir said
Yes.
Google: American Service-Members' Protection Act

Okay. Also known as The Hague Invasion Act.
Interesting.

https://www.rt.com/news/553816-us-putin-hague-criminal-court/

@metal-brain said
Okay. Also known as The Hague Invasion Act.
Interesting.

Not really that interesting.
The US couldn’t invade the Netherlands, for much the same reasons Russia can’t.

Logistically nigh on impossible and because of the EU.
So, it’s basically chest-beating at its most obnoxious.

@shavixmir said
Not really that interesting.
The US couldn’t invade the Netherlands, for much the same reasons Russia can’t.

Logistically nigh on impossible and because of the EU.
So, it’s basically chest-beating at its most obnoxious.

Don't you mean because the Netherlands is a NATO member?
The USA could invade if they wanted to. They just don't have a reason to.

Why can't Russia? What about the EU is stopping them?
Don't you mean because the Netherlands is a NATO member?