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USA opposes international criminal court

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@metal-brain said
Don't you mean because the Netherlands is a NATO member?
The USA could invade if they wanted to. They just don't have a reason to.

Why can't Russia? What about the EU is stopping them?
Don't you mean because the Netherlands is a NATO member?
Nope.
You can’t just attack the EU. It’s too powerful.
And logistically, for Russia to invade the Netherlands, they would need to invade Poland and German just to get here.

That’s hell of a long supply lines.


@metal-brain said
What about GW Bush? Do you want him dead or deposed?

Your moral outrage at war crimes does not seem to concern you with anyone other than Putin. The UK signed onto the ICC. Isn't Tony Blair guilty of war crimes in Iraq?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55247033

Why do you condone selective justice? You will not hold your own war criminals responsible and punish them. ...[text shortened]... it? Do people need to be deceived by the ruling class because they know better than the rest of us?
He got deposed under the the term of office statute bright spark.
Can you read, can you actually understand anything concerning reality.


@kevcvs57 said
He got deposed under the the term of office statute bright spark.
Can you read, can you actually understand anything concerning reality.
Who are you talking about? Nobody can read your mind.


@metal-brain said
Who are you talking about? Nobody can read your mind.
Holy crap on a Christmas tree
“ What about GW Bush? Do you want him dead or deposed? ”
Can you read your own mind or even read your own posts!

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@metal-brain said
What about GW Bush? Do you want him dead or deposed?

Your moral outrage at war crimes does not seem to concern you with anyone other than Putin. The UK signed onto the ICC. Isn't Tony Blair guilty of war crimes in Iraq?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55247033

Why do you condone selective justice? You will not hold your own war criminals responsible and punish them. ...[text shortened]... it? Do people need to be deceived by the ruling class because they know better than the rest of us?
You are such an idiot.
If Putin loses this war so badly that is own people hand him over to The Hague then I will chuckle myself to sleep at the thought of one of the worlds elites being manacled in the dock if Blair and Bush were with him I’d be nigh on orgasmic.
Otherwise the designation of Russias actions in Ukraine as a war crime serves the purpose of corralling international support for long term crippling sanctions on Russia, and do not start wailing on about innocent Russians, his support at home went through the roof because of this invasion as it did when he marched into Crimea and the Donbas.
Russia is losing ( or certainly not winning ) this war because Putin and his cronies spent Russias money on luxury Palaces, yachts and Mayfair apartments for their mistresses instead of upgrading its military in any meaningful way.
Russia is not a super power militarily, politically or economically it’s just a nation state like the rest of us, albeit probably the next most powerful nation state, the sooner it grasps the fact that it is not in the same league as the US and China the better. I can assure you Putin grasps it and has done for a very long time.
After witnessing the debacle of its military campaign in Ukraine you have to wonder what sort of condition it’s nuclear arsenal is in.

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@kevcvs57 said
Holy crap on a Christmas tree
“ What about GW Bush? Do you want him dead or deposed? ”
Can you read your own mind or even read your own posts!
How do I know you were not talking about your war criminal Blair? What about GW Bush? Do you want him dead or deposed? How about Blair? Him too?

So if Putin is alive, but not in power that is enough for you? No trial at the Hague?


@kevcvs57 said
You are such an idiot.
If Putin loses this war so badly that is own people hand him over to The Hague then I will chuckle myself to sleep at the thought of one of the worlds elites being manacled in the dock if Blair and Bush were with him I’d be nigh on orgasmic.
Otherwise the designation of Russias actions in Ukraine as a war crime serves the purpose of corralling intern ...[text shortened]... s military campaign in Ukraine you have to wonder what sort of condition it’s nuclear arsenal is in.
Then call for the prosecution of Bush and Blair at the Hague.
You are being unequal in your condemnation.


@metal-brain said
Then call for the prosecution of Bush and Blair at the Hague.
You are being unequal in your condemnation.
Belgium did calll for it on Bush. And Bush did not travel to Europe (same with Dick Cheney, by the way).

However, there is no outstanding ICC warrant (mainly because the US is not a participant and no country has an actual open standing warrant to defer them).

This doesn’t mean Bush or Cheney couldn’t be arrested if they want to Belgium. But what the hell is Belgium supposed to do against the US-bloody-A?

What’s going to be interesting is what’s gonna happen after this Ukrainian debacle.
Will there be active warrants and prosecutions against Russians; a nuclear super-power?
Say there are.

This certainly opens the door for China and the US to get very nervous about future adventures they might want to engage in.
Same with this supplying of weapons to Ukraine. The next time the US invades some 3rd world country, you might openly see Russia, China and God-knows who supplying weapons to the defendents.

Could be interesting times.
However, there is a wee warning that has to be made at this moment: this supplying Ukraine with billions of dollars worth of weapons, if succesful at stopping conventional Russian engagements, or causing too high a losses, can Russia see it as an existential threat to their existence?

Everyone ganging up on them?
If so, this very well may be the begin of WW3.

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@metal-brain said
How do I know you were not talking about your war criminal Blair? What about GW Bush? Do you want him dead or deposed? How about Blair? Him too?

So if Putin is alive, but not in power that is enough for you? No trial at the Hague?
Right do we have now established that English is not your first language and your grasp of it is only marginally better than my grasp of Russian.


@metal-brain said
Then call for the prosecution of Bush and Blair at the Hague.
You are being unequal in your condemnation.
How could you not know Ive already called for Bush and Blair to go to The Hague but I’ll say it again now, you can put Bush and Blair in The Hague for the crime of aggression regarding the 2nd Iraq war with my blessing.
Blair would be your best bet as an ex PM but don’t hold your breath regarding Bush and Putin the US and Russia would never allow it.
If you ask me for about the 5th time about Blair and Bush I will flag you up for harassment.
Putin is not going to The Hague but that is not really the point of establishing that he is a war criminal in the eyes of the world.


@shavixmir said
Belgium did calll for it on Bush. And Bush did not travel to Europe (same with Dick Cheney, by the way).

However, there is no outstanding ICC warrant (mainly because the US is not a participant and no country has an actual open standing warrant to defer them).

This doesn’t mean Bush or Cheney couldn’t be arrested if they want to Belgium. But what the hell is Belgium s ...[text shortened]... to their existence?

Everyone ganging up on them?
If so, this very well may be the begin of WW3.
"However, there is no outstanding ICC warrant (mainly because the US is not a participant and no country has an actual open standing warrant to defer them)."

That is true of Russia (and Ukraine) as well. They signed it but did not ratify it. What the hell is Belgium supposed to do against Russia?


@kevcvs57 said
Right do we have now established that English is not your first language and your grasp of it is only marginally better than my grasp of Russian.
You are a paranoid idiot.

I was born here in Michigan and raised on a dairy farm. English is my only language unless you want to count my poor Spanish vocabulary.


@kevcvs57 said
How could you not know Ive already called for Bush and Blair to go to The Hague but I’ll say it again now, you can put Bush and Blair in The Hague for the crime of aggression regarding the 2nd Iraq war with my blessing.
Blair would be your best bet as an ex PM but don’t hold your breath regarding Bush and Putin the US and Russia would never allow it.
If you ask me for abo ...[text shortened]... but that is not really the point of establishing that he is a war criminal in the eyes of the world.
"you can put Bush and Blair in The Hague for the crime of aggression regarding the 2nd Iraq war with my blessing. "

No, you are still condoning Bush an Blair not being held accountable.
I want you to put Blair on trial for war crimes. Don't say "you can". That obviously means you have no intention of seeking justice for all.

Seek justice for war crimes in the order they took place.


Rep. Ilhan Omar said it would be 'staggeringly hypocritical' for US to support a war crimes investigation into Putin without joining the International Criminal Court

https://www.businessinsider.nl/[WORD TOO LONG]/