What happens if Repubs win everywhere?

@averagejoe1 said
Marauder. C'mon, as Biden would say. Yes, many people HATED the man Trump, starting with the say he announced that he would run....did they not? ON his ass for 4 years for every detail of his life. But he did not hide in his basement, he accomplished many great things as president, and yes, with a few official bumps along the way, like how to handle a mysterious pandem ...[text shortened]... will. and of course, it is. I think that I never saw Trump giggle, All Businesss, dont you know?

So, when you talk about all those people who voted for Biden and a Nanny State.
Do their votes not matter ??
Is that not the essence of a democracy ??
You are in favor of democracy, aren't you ? Or were you rooting for those who were climbing the walls of the Capitol on Jan 6th ?

I've heard all too often the phrase from the politicians and others, Evangelicals, White supremacists, and general conservatives.....

We're going to take back our country !!!

We've all heard that. Why would people say that ?
Is it because they know that they can't win back their country ?

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Fair enough except for the last sentence; on November 30, 2019 three days before her withdrawal, Harris had a favorability rating among Democrats of 60.8% compared to 19.6% members of that party having an unfavorable opinion of her according to YouGov. https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/trackers/kamala-harris-favorability?crossBreak=democrat

So it's not like she was "unpopular" among Democrats.

@no1marauder said
People from NY (like I am) knew all about Trump long before idiot Republicans decided he'd be a great President. He's been a laughingstock here for about 30 years.

To your simple statement that he was a laughing stock in NYC, and with all due respect to your opinions of him as a man or a businessman, I seem to recall that his enterprises were GOOD for NY. Am I wrong? Was he not behind big revenues for the city.?

@mghrn55 said
So, when you talk about all those people who voted for Biden and a Nanny State.
Do their votes not matter ??
Is that not the essence of a democracy ??
You are in favor of democracy, aren't you ? Or were you rooting for those who were climbing the walls of the Capitol on Jan 6th ?

I've heard all too often the phrase from the politicians and others, Evangelicals, White su ...[text shortened]... hy would people say that ?
Is it because they know that they can't win back their country ?

Can't speak to what mobs say or why they say them. I, and my constituents, never said such things, and for the record, I have never been polled and really pay no attention to them. Don't tell me you do? You did mention polls above. Do polls have something to do with you ? I have never written a post about a 'poll'. Further, I would not base my comments, as you do, on some poll results.

I don't understand your first sentence , although I did indeed mean that liberals (Biden drones) would all love to live in a Nanny state,,,,,,that is, to be dependent on the government. I use 'throw frisbees' a lot to make my point, but actually, that is what y'all do. Flower children of the present day. The bigger the government, the more excess flows to you. Not to me, being one of the taxpayers who make the excess available, but to you.

This Marxism is comfortable for liberals. Note that none of you actually admit that "I am a socialist", or I am a Marxist, but you sure preach their tenets. Are you ashamed to say it? We don't even know who you are....why dont you say it, really stir things up?

Take back a country ?? You fellers can't even keep Joe Manchin of Virginia in check, he is our man in the Senate,, who will control every vote. Maybe we will get back in the majority with his help, or, at least, save important things like the filibuster. Do you know what one is? Schumer and Biden, about 4 years ago, voted to SAVE THE FILIBUSTER! Now they are trying to get rid of it. Great leaders you have there. I don't think that Trump ever reversed course on his beliefs. God.I miss him.

@averagejoe1 said
Can't speak to what mobs say or why they say them. I, and my constituents, never said such things, and for the record, I have never been polled and really pay no attention to them. Don't tell me you do? You did mention polls above. Do polls have something to do with you ? I have never written a post about a 'poll'. Further, I would not base my comments, as you do, o ...[text shortened]... ders you have there. I don't think that Trump ever reversed course on his beliefs. God.I miss him.

AJ: I don't think that Trump ever reversed course on his beliefs.

Are you serious?

Trump in 1999: ‘I am Very Pro-Choice’

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

Trump on Hillary Clinton in 2008: "Well, I know her and she’d make a good president or good vice president.” https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/12/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-good-president/index.html

"Trump called the Electoral College “a disaster for a democracy … a total sham and a travesty.”

https://thehill.com/blogs/twitter-room/other-news/266423-trump-calls-for-revolution-blasts-electoral-college

I could do this all day; the Donald has no principles or beliefs that he wouldn't jettison tomorrow if it helped him politically or esp. financially.

@averagejoe1 said
To your simple statement that he was a laughing stock in NYC, and with all due respect to your opinions of him as a man or a businessman, I seem to recall that his enterprises were GOOD for NY. Am I wrong? Was he not behind big revenues for the city.?

Daddy slipped him $150 million; even a buffoon would have a hard time blowing all that. He's been very anxious to hide his financial situation for a while, so it's hard to say if he's successful or in hock up to his eyeballs.

Ever listen to him on one of his many appearances on Howard Stern's show? He came off as what he is; a classless, misogynistic, clown. Maybe he was exaggerating because he thought that was what listeners to the show wanted to hear; as I said, he really has no deep principles but an abiding faith that he is the center of the universe.

@no1marauder said
Daddy slipped him $150 million; even a buffoon would have a hard time blowing all that. He's been very anxious to hide his financial situation for a while, so it's hard to say if he's successful or in hock up to his eyeballs.

Ever listen to him on one of his many appearances on Howard Stern's show? He came off as what he is; a classless, misogynistic, clown. Maybe he w ...[text shortened]... I said, he really has no deep principles but an abiding faith that he is the center of the universe.

You got me on his changing views, mea culpa. Political expedience, I guess, too bad that it exists .
Y'all go ahead and knock his personal life, finances, girlfriends, whatever, maybe bad breath and hates dogs, like my doctor does, but like my doctor, who is the best dr in the county, Trump was the best president. He will come back, reinstitute normalcy, or, OR, he will not come back, and we will have Socialism. I myself willhave the wherewithal to set myself up as a socialist, luckily, but maybe 95% of our populace will live under Socialism. Why does this not bother you, and why do you not just say to the Forum that you are for Socialism, or that you are a Socialist? None of you ever do that.

@no1marauder said
Yes, I'm saying she didn't run in any primaries because she withdrew before there were any.

She was on the presidential debate stage, when she was asked if she would provide free health care to immigrants, she raised her hand.Biden didn't , common knowledge. Still dont get where you are coming from on this one. This may be your most classic parse.

@averagejoe1 said
You got me on his changing views, mea culpa. Political expedience, I guess, too bad that it exists .
Y'all go ahead and knock his personal life, finances, girlfriends, whatever, maybe bad breath and hates dogs, like my doctor does, but like my doctor, who is the best dr in the county, Trump was the best president. He will come back, reinstitute normalcy, or, OR, he ...[text shortened]... ay to the Forum that you are for Socialism, or that you are a Socialist? None of you ever do that.

I already told you what my political beliefs were several times:

no1: In principle, it would be accurate to describe me as a "libertarian socialist" or what was commonly known as an "anarchist" in the late 1800s (http://www.spunk.org/library/intro/faq/sp001547/secA1.html#seca13). However, since the State is unlikely to be replaced any time soon, in practice you can all me a supporter of Lockean Natural Rights theory who believes Man's social structures should be compatible with his empathic, equalitarian nature.


You don't know what "socialism" is (you think people like Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi are "socialists" for cripes sakes), so your confusion about where the US is headed is based on your willful ignorance. At best, we'll get something like the Scandinavian model with a nice solid safety net but with a thriving private sector with most industries being completely or largely owned by capitalists.

@no1marauder said
I already told you what my political beliefs were several times:

no1: In principle, it would be accurate to describe me as a "libertarian socialist" or what was commonly known as an "anarchist" in the late 1800s (http://www.spunk.org/library/intro/faq/sp001547/secA1.html#seca13). However, since the State is unlikely to be replaced any time soon, in practice you can all ...[text shortened]... ith a thriving private sector with most industries being completely or largely owned by capitalists.

Tell us about the 'safety net'.

@dood111 said
When kamala harris was San Fran DA, she had evidence that PROVED a man she prosecuted was innocent and sent to prison. She kept him on death row until his attorney forced her to give up the evidence because she didn't want to own up to it because it made her look bad. She should have been removed from office and sent to prison for it, but Big Willie Brown covered for her.
...[text shortened]... g bid for the Attorney general office, and suddenly all those cases got dropped.
She is pure EVIL.

What happened to the Chinese post?

@no1marauder said
I already told you what my political beliefs were several times:

no1: In principle, it would be accurate to describe me as a "libertarian socialist" or what was commonly known as an "anarchist" in the late 1800s (http://www.spunk.org/library/intro/faq/sp001547/secA1.html#seca13). However, since the State is unlikely to be replaced any time soon, in practice you can all ...[text shortened]... ith a thriving private sector with most industries being completely or largely owned by capitalists.

Who funds the safety net? The people who work hard, for the people who don't? If I don't work hard, and throw all my money in a fire, can iI feed off the safety net? These questions need answering for those of us trying to learn socialism.

@no1marauder said
I already told you what my political beliefs were several times:

no1: In principle, it would be accurate to describe me as a "libertarian socialist" or what was commonly known as an "anarchist" in the late 1800s (http://www.spunk.org/library/intro/faq/sp001547/secA1.html#seca13). However, since the State is unlikely to be replaced any time soon, in practice you can all ...[text shortened]... ith a thriving private sector with most industries being completely or largely owned by capitalists.

So,does a man leave his freedom behind in order to fall in line with Lockean, which it seems would dictate a blanket policy which would require everyone to 'get behind it' for it to work? Isn't it a bit unlikely that you would get 100% participation, especially from the likes of me, and that it could not possibly work?

Seems to me your are enveloped in some kind of pipe dream, ....are they teaching (indoctrinating) this in colleges? These questions need answering for those of us learning what socialism is.

@averagejoe1 said
Who funds the safety net? The people who work hard, for the people who don't? If I don't work hard, and throw all my money in a fire, can iI feed off the safety net? These questions need answering for those of us trying to learn socialism.

People who work hard get sick.

People who work hard get old.

People who work hard lose their jobs if a company fails or a CEO makes poor decision or if the company gets sold or for a million other reasons.

The People create an economic system and it should reflect our empathic nature. We should not let others suffer for what FDR correctly called "the hazards and vicissitudes of life,". In protecting them, we are protecting ourselves and posterity.

EDIT: FDR's spech on signing the Social Security Act is here: https://www.ssa.gov/history/fdrstmts.html#signing