@AverageJoe1
Marauder, here is a member your 'National Society' which you want me to join. Uhh, I might have a cultural problem with this vermin. Just look at the picture. I really don't know what you talk about. You gonna have him over for Thanksgiving? Do we have to give him access to your foolish 'safety net'??
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/police-id-suspect-accused-of-shooting-buckhead-jogger-ramming-pedestrian-with-car
@averagejoe1 saidSo you don't understand what the "creepy Marxists" who wrote the Constitution meant by "We, the People"?
@AverageJoe1
You define ‘people’. as all members of a national society. Creepy indeed, but it figures, coming from a group guy, a mob guy. Is there not one real independent guy among you guys?
I do not consider myself in any way a member of a national society. I get what NATO is, but you literally think that we, including the cretins in Portland, are all in one national society. And your writings bespeak it as ‘fhe way it should be.”
You might consider going back to school
@no1marauder saidBut tell me if the killer in the photo is part of our comprehensive society and gets to be cared for by your safety net. A rhetorical question, but how do you distinguish him from the deserving. Will it be like the Nazis at the trainyards sending jews to respective cars? You fellers sre going to be a busy lot as you transform America.
So you don't understand what the "creepy Marxists" who wrote the Constitution meant by "We, the People"?
You might consider going back to school
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@no1marauder saidSure i do. Just consider that they were leaving the life of being ruled by a king, and had to write that the people, who had left, agreed to have a society of Freedom.
So you don't understand what the "creepy Marxists" who wrote the Constitution meant by "We, the People"?
You might consider going back to school
Libs, who never even dammit fly the American flag, are ‘your people’ of today who want to return to a
Life of being ruled by Socialists. Isnt that about it.? Indeed, it is.
@no1marauder saidthere is a reason the word “general” is placed before welfare. It is stupid for you to interpret it as “support”.
AJ: The People (your marxism is showing)..
Were the Framers of the Constitution "Marxists"?
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and es ...[text shortened]... a human society is "our problem". A society with starving people has failed its most basic function.
@mott-the-hoople saidThanks Mott, Marauder is a piece of work. he is all over the place, I truly don’t know what he is talking about. He obviously finds comfort and security in the society which he thinks we should all live in. Boring, if nothing else. I like going my own way cutting my own path, his society would not allow that.
there is a reason the word “general” is placed before welfare. It is stupid for you to interpret it as “support”.
@AverageJoe1
People who preach this new perfect world never really say personally how they will enjoy living in such world.
@averagejoe1 saidhe may want to check on the "general welfare' of the people of portland, california, border cities ect
Thanks Mott, Marauder is a piece of work. he is all over the place, I truly don’t know what he is talking about. He obviously finds comfort and security in the society which he thinks we should all live in. Boring, if nothing else. I like going my own way cutting my own path, his society would not allow that.
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@mott-the-hoople saidSeems like Portland is doing OK. https://datausa.io/profile/geo/portland-or/
he may want to check on the "general welfare' of the people of portland, california, border cities ect
California too. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA/INC110219
@AverageJoe1
The bottom line for you is this: YOU HATE ACTUAL DEMOCRACY. You WANT a dictatorship since you think you can ease your way into the elite which you mightily wish you had elite status.
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@no1marauder saidCherry picking.
Seems like Portland is doing OK. https://datausa.io/profile/geo/portland-or/
California too. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA/INC110219
Voters in five rural Oregon counties approved measures on Tuesday to consider joining the state of Idaho, a part of a long-shot grassroots movement to break with a state dominated by liberal voters west of the Cascade Mountains.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/oregon-counties-vote-to-secede-to-idaho/ar-BB1gUBIP
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That's *the people* of Oregon speaking, in a loud way.
EDIT to add: @Sonhouse, is the above account the type of *democracy* you speak of? Thank you.
@averagejoe1 said"Comfort and security" are why people banded into societies in the first place, so it should be the minimal goal of any human society.
Thanks Mott, Marauder is a piece of work. he is all over the place, I truly don’t know what he is talking about. He obviously finds comfort and security in the society which he thinks we should all live in. Boring, if nothing else. I like going my own way cutting my own path, his society would not allow that.
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@mott-the-hoople saidWhich of course I didn't. But a society with large pockets of poverty and economic deprivation isn't doing a good job of "promoting the general welfare" is it?
there is a reason the word “general” is placed before welfare. It is stupid for you to interpret it as “support”.
I hope you don't think that means promoting the welfare of Generals.
@averagejoe1 saidYou think King George was a "socialist "?
Sure i do. Just consider that they were leaving the life of being ruled by a king, and had to write that the people, who had left, agreed to have a society of Freedom.
Libs, who never even dammit fly the American flag, are ‘your people’ of today who want to return to a
Life of being ruled by Socialists. Isnt that about it.? Indeed, it is.
@no1marauder saidyou seem to think welfare only covers financial being...it doesnt do you any good to have a pocket full of money but you cant walk the streets.
Seems like Portland is doing OK. https://datausa.io/profile/geo/portland-or/
California too. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA/INC110219