The post that was quoted here has been removedThat is not why the USA entered WW2
FDR would not even let the Jews come here. So much for empathy for the Jews.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousands-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/
The Rockefellers funded the Nazi eugenics movement so the USA was complicit in that which should not come as a big surprise since the eugenics movement started in the USA first.
https://www.jpost.com/blogs/the-jewish-problem---from-anti-judaism-to-anti-semitism/foundations-of-holocaust-american-eugenics-and-the-nazi-connection-364998
The post that was quoted here has been removedThat is not at the music festival. Nobody claimed civilians were not being killed on both sides, but mostly Palestinians have been killed throughout the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Why is your heart bleeding for the small number of Israelis killed relative to Palestinians killed?
You remind me of some bear hunters that called a bear mean because it killed one of their bear dogs. The fact they were trying to kill the bear completely eluded their thoughts. They killed the mean old bear. How dare it fight back to try to survive.
Where is the video of all the unarmed people killed at the music festival? There is no logical reason to kill unarmed people unless there are too many to capture and they are not running away. Dead people cannot be swapped for Palestinian prisoners.
They lied about beheaded babies. Why should we believe anything else without evidence?
The post that was quoted here has been removedThe supernova music festival. Nobody disputes Hamas killed civilians, but Hamas does not consider settlers civilians. They shoot settlers on sight, especially if they are settlers that kicked the crap out of Palestinians praying peacefully at a Mosque.
@athousandyoung saidStuff like that , save it to you drive. I would love to have a read of what you wrote in full. If you have some dates to the points you made here, that would help too.
Dammit I wrote a long post with maps and the site crashed and I lost it all.
OLD TESTAMENT TIMES:
Canaan (including Jews)
Egypt
Israel and Philistines
Assyrian, Persian, Babylonian Empires (not necessarily in that order)
INTER-TESTAMENT TIMES - Alexander the Great and his generals
NEW TESTAMENT TIMES - Roman Palestine
QURAN TIMES - Rashidun Caliphate
...[text shortened]... it" starts. Also strong variation in how much religion and ethnocentrism affect this determination.
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@metal-brain saidWrong in that all of the land did not belong to the indigenous Palestinians. Let me give an example. I live in what was formerly part of the British Empire. the British owned this place. Individual people own property, and they are from all over the place, Indians, Africans, British, Chinese... but still the country is owned by the British. They govern, maintain, operate schools, hospitals, build roads, provide security.. etc.
What am I wrong about? Be specific.
The land did not belong to the Jews before the League of Nations got involved.
By all means, do your research. Look up Lawrence of Arabia while you are at it. He promised the Palestinians the land if they fought off the Ottoman empire on behalf of the British Empire.
https://israelforever.org/state/Mandate_for_Palestine_Jewish_ ...[text shortened]... nd they promised to the Palestinians. The British reneged on that promise which was a deep betrayal.
If the British decided to pass over this place to the Chinese .. of course people can fight over it but the British are within their right to do that.
A title deed for a piece of land means you own that piece of land. You do not own the whole country.
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@metal-brain saidDefine 'settlers' and 'civilians'.
The supernova music festival. Nobody disputes Hamas killed civilians, but Hamas does not consider settlers civilians. They shoot settlers on sight, especially if they are settlers that kicked the crap out of Palestinians praying peacefully at a Mosque.
Also it would be helpful to get your emotions out of it.
@no1marauder saidThanks. Will have a read. Regarding this
You might want to check this article out which shows that Arabs were promised by the British "that the future government of the regions of the Ottoman Empire that were occupied by Allied forces in World War I should be based on the consent of the governed" if the Arabs agreed to revolt against the Turks, which they did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussei ...[text shortened]... amallah district. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine "Land Ownership" section
I'm not sure what you mean by saying of the Palestinians "the land did not belong to them" if you mean the area included in the Mandate; by 1945 Jews owned only about 5-7% of the area with non-Jewish Palestinians owning at least 10 times that.:
Ownership of land does not equate to ownership of the country. The country was under the control of the British Empire. I responded to Metal Brain: about that above.
@rajk999 saidThe territory was under the administration of the British Empire under the supervision of the League of Nations. The Brits didn't "own" it and they did not turn whatever sovereignty they had over to the Jews in 1948; they simply declared the Mandate over and left.
Thanks. Will have a read. Regarding this
I'm not sure what you mean by saying of the Palestinians "the land did not belong to them" if you mean the area included in the Mandate; by 1945 Jews owned only about 5-7% of the area with non-Jewish Palestinians owning at least 10 times that.:
Ownership of land does not equate to ownership of the country. The country was under the control of the British Empire. I responded to Metal Brain: about that above.
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@no1marauder saidIs that article from the UN saying that the Palestinians have 100% right to form their country in the land of Palestine, and the Jews have none?
As the UN explains:
"In principle, the Mandate was meant to be in the nature of a transitory phase until Palestine attained the status of a fully independent nation, a status provisionally recognized in the League’s Covenant, "
https://www.un.org/en/situation-in-occupied-palestine-and-israel/history