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@no1marauder saidYeah, man......but hey, if everyone gets a free photo ID card in the mail tomorrow, we ALL HAVE IDs, is it acceptable to you then that such IDs be required to be shown to my auntie who will be a volunteer at the voting precinct thereby hand a ballot to the voter??
Right wingers have an aversion to data that doesn't support their pre-conceived positions.
Since the risk of a felony conviction so far exceeds the reward of casting an extra vote which is extraordinarily unlikely to matter much in an election, it's hardly surprising there is so little voter fraud.
Edit: Suzianne be advised that this is what is called a hypothetical on the Forum Venue, not a 'fantasyland', whatever that meant. And please feel free to jump in with marauder with an answer to this hypothetical question.
@no1marauder saidThankyou for this opening, that I might weigh in that 'I" don't care myself, Sonhouse.....that if someone's life-style (new street address, married name, whatever,) changes, that they have to go to trouble to do something about it. Poor dear. They have to put some heart into the privilege of living in America. Do it, or get out of the way.
I don't care if right wing loons "trust them" or not. Every State has bipartisan election officials at every precinct verifying that the laws are followed.
I don't care. I like that one, thanks. Hey, your man Biden,,,,did he ever care about a dam thing?
@no1marauder saidWhat evidence/data have you produced to prove that there is no vote fraud, except to claim that since there is a risk of felony conviction people wont do it.
Right wingers have an aversion to data that doesn't support their pre-conceived positions.
Since the risk of a felony conviction so far exceeds the reward of casting an extra vote which is extraordinarily unlikely to matter much in an election, it's hardly surprising there is so little voter fraud.
There is risk of felony conviction in every criminal offense and yet people continue to do it.
You have no case except to claim 'I say so'.
@Rajk999 saidMaybe you should read my posts and glance at the links I provide.
What evidence/data have you produced to prove that there is no vote fraud, except to claim that since there is a risk of felony conviction people wont do it.
There is risk of felony conviction in every criminal offense and yet people continue to do it.
You have no case except to claim 'I say so'.
@no1marauder saidjust a bunch of words.
From the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals last May:
"In its ruling, the 6th Circuit describes how Michigan goes above and beyond the legal standard for maintaining the state’s voter file, “A state that actively makes efforts to remove dead registrants based on state and federal death records is engaging in an inherently rational, sensible attempt at maintaining accurate ...[text shortened]... s/2025/05/06/federal-court-affirms-that-michigans-work-to-remove-deceased-voters-from-state-rolls-is
they defied a suit demanding that they remove 100K dead people.
actions speak louder than words.
@no1marauder saidI did and there is no such proof in your links. Also the fact that people are complaining about voters in the US being required to produce photo ID and weirdly calling such a requirement racist says something. The blacks in the US are often the ones without ID. So any adult without ID is a fool, and clearly too stupid to vote. His voting rights should be withdrawn.
Maybe you should read my posts and glance at the links I provide.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidThat's the suit that ruling dismissed as meritless.
just a bunch of words.
they defied a suit demanding that they remove 100K dead people.
actions speak louder than words.
@Rajk999 saidThe racism always come out in the end.
I did and there is no such proof in your links. Also the fact that people are complaining about voters in the US being required to produce photo ID and weirdly calling such a requirement racist says something. The blacks in the US are often the ones without ID. So any adult without ID is a fool, and clearly too stupid to vote. His voting rights should be withdrawn.
Thanks for proving my point that this is really about voter suppression.
@no1marauder saidYou and the 14% are fools
The racism always come out in the end.
Thanks for proving my point that this is really about voter suppression.
@no1marauder saidRubbish. It is about controlling fraud, just like how it is in all these cases ..
The racism always come out in the end.
Thanks for proving my point that this is really about voter suppression.
Domestic Air Travel: passengers must have a REAL ID-compliant driver’s license, state-issued ID, or a passport to pass TSA checkpoints.
Driving: You must have a driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance in your possession.
Law Enforcement (Stop and Identify): If police have "reasonable suspicion" that you are involved in criminal activity, you are required to identify yourself in many states.
Age-Restricted Purchases: Purchasing alcohol, tobacco, or entering certain bars/clubs.
Financial Transactions: Opening bank accounts, cashing checks, or conducting large transactions.
Accessing Federal Facilities: Entering nuclear power plants, military bases, and some federal buildings.
Are all these cases racist?
Foolish blacks [clearly you are one] in America are quick to call racism when they are retarded, backward and lacking.
@AverageJoe1 saidJust stop with this conservative gaslighting.
? Is that not a tenet of socialism? Socialists, not mentioning any names ( 🙂 ) ,indeed want their hands held. Oh, suzianna...
It is literally all you do.
@Rajk999 saidIt has NOTHING to do with "controlling fraud".
Rubbish. It is about controlling fraud, just like how it is in all these cases ..
Domestic Air Travel: passengers must have a REAL ID-compliant driver’s license, state-issued ID, or a passport to pass TSA checkpoints.
Driving: You must have a driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance in your possession.
Law Enforcement (Stop and Identify): If police have "re ...[text shortened]... arly you are one] in America are quick to call racism when they are retarded, backward and lacking.
Why does Trump continually pardon execs who have been busted for fraud, if this is "about controlling fraud"?
Trump is all about fraud. Why would he reduce the main way he makes money?
It has everything to do with voter suppression. Period. They want to keep people they perceive as their enemies from voting. It's all about voter suppression.