@Mott-The-Hoople saidNon sequitur.
Yet they steal billions of dollars, but they can sure run some straight up elections 😂
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYou have no shame when you lie, do you?
Prove they dont...As EOT stated....over 100,000 dead voters on the rolls.
Just like your Orange Boy.
@AverageJoe1 saidAnother with the cart before the horse.
Jesus... Common sense also tells us that confidence in elections is just as important as access to elections. Photo ID doesn't interfere with the rights of millions.... it simply verifies that the person voting is the person registered, which is the same standard used in countless everyday activities, like boarding, a plane, casting a check or entering secure buildings.
...[text shortened]... election integrity isn't interfering with rights. It is protecting rights.:::::::!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Mott-The-Hoople saidDon't cry to us when they stop your SS check out of "an abundance of caution"
very ignorant of you to think that is the way it works. when a person dies a death certificate is issued. election officials should be required to check the database and remove those voters.
democrat states dont want to do that.
Recently it was discovered thousands of dead were receiving SS checks because the agencies werent working together.
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That is the sort of things Trump wants in place. common sense ya know
@AverageJoe1 saidSeriously, stop taking my name in vain. But if you do, for the love of God, please spell it correctly.
Yes, Suzanne Ann, but this particular thread makes it easy by assuming, for the sake of this thread thatthe photo IDs are free,…… Would everyone then be OK in presenting ID at a voting booth? Can it be required. ?? Marauder has clearly stated, no , that is not good enough for him. Can someone besides Maraldo tell me what in the hell his problem is???
@AverageJoe1 saidBut they won't be, will they?
nononononononononono. You miss the issue, you silly goose!!!! The issue is the question within the OP!!!!
WHAT IF PHOTO IDs ARE AVAILABLE FOR ALL CITIZENS TOMORROW ??
So, in this scenario, there is NOTHING DIFFICULT.
So, can you revisit the question, and tell us if you would find presenting (said ID) to a voting registrar at time of voting.to be acceptable?? And how you now do find it acceptable when you did not before?
Come back from fantasyland.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidFrom the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals last May:
you're flat out wrong.
dead people vote
non citizens vote
people vote in more than one voting district.
as an example, Michigan was shown to have 100,000 dead voters on the voter's registry that they refused to remove.
Gee, I wonder why it was so important to those wily dems
"In its ruling, the 6th Circuit describes how Michigan goes above and beyond the legal standard for maintaining the state’s voter file, “A state that actively makes efforts to remove dead registrants based on state and federal death records is engaging in an inherently rational, sensible attempt at maintaining accurate voter registration lists. Michigan not only undertakes the kind of effort described . . . but it also adopts additional standards as well.”
The Court continued, “Michigan goes further by also actively employing a third party, ERIC, to assist in identifying deceased registrants. This additional effort only further enhances the reasonableness of Michigan’s efforts to maintain accurate voter rolls.”
https://www.michigan.gov/sos/resources/news/2025/05/06/federal-court-affirms-that-michigans-work-to-remove-deceased-voters-from-state-rolls-is
@AverageJoe1 saidThat are beginning to be no longer free.
Yes, passports, some photo labs do not give ID for free.
So, tht is why I have made my question based on free Photos.
This would be done simply.........wait for it...........in the same way ass FREE Covid Shots, FREE Flu shots.
I wojld think you would appreciate my making this answer easy for you.
Thanks, Donald.
@Indonesia-Phil saidAs well as making it easier to take advantage of.
Perhaps the system should be introduced? I get the 'I am not a number, I am a free man' argument (Anyone remember 'The Prisoner'? Showing my age, here... ) but at the moment we are a series of numbers anyway, ( passport, drivers' licence, tax number etc) so why not just one number covers the lot? Could result in a reduction in fraud, and it would certainly be an easier system to administer.
If you have the same number for everything, someone takes one card and suddenly, you are locked out of everything.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidMore so than Trump. He's a world-class liar.
Do you really think democrat officials can be trusted? Newsom, walz?
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYou're the first one that has said that.
Yes it is very racist to suggest blacks and browns are too dumb to get a voter ID
What I and others ARE saying is that there are people making it more difficult for them.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidBut You are the one defending lies.
Where ya been, sister, it's true - in the House all but one democrat voted against voter ID (214 of 215)
in a country where 84% of Americans *want* it. And you sit there defending them??
What about "democracy", Suzianne, does that have any meaning anymore?
@no1marauder saidNonsense. There is fraud or the potential for fraud in every single thing as long as there are people involved. In the case of voting with np ID the only thing you can say for sure is that you do not know how much fraud there is.
What you should have learned is that there is zero evidence of any significant amount of voter fraud in the US (
Here are some activities in the US where some kind of ID requirement is strictly enforced ... from Google :
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- Domestic Air Travel: Starting May 7, 2025, passengers 18+ must have a REAL ID-compliant driver’s license, state-issued ID, or a passport to pass TSA checkpoints.
- Driving: You must have a driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance in your possession.
- Law Enforcement (Stop and Identify): If police have "reasonable suspicion" that you are involved in criminal activity, you are required to identify yourself in many states.
- Age-Restricted Purchases: Purchasing alcohol, tobacco, or entering certain bars/clubs.
- Financial Transactions: Opening bank accounts, cashing checks, or conducting large transactions.
- Accessing Federal Facilities: Entering nuclear power plants, military bases, and some federal buildings.
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In any one of these activities above, if no ID was required, there would be massive fraud.
@Rajk999 saidRight wingers have an aversion to data that doesn't support their pre-conceived positions.
Nonsense. There is fraud or the potential for fraud in every single thing as long as there are people involved. In the case of voting with np ID the only thing you can say for sure is that you do not know how much fraud there is.
Here are some activities in the US where some kind of ID requirement is strictly enforced ... from Google :
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In any one of these activities above, if no ID was required, there would be massive fraud.
Since the risk of a felony conviction so far exceeds the reward of casting an extra vote which is extraordinarily unlikely to matter much in an election, it's hardly surprising there is so little voter fraud.