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@wildgrass said
Huh. I didn't write that I know why he's lying.
You cannot even prove he lied, let alone explain why he might have.
You saw the video of the Q Shaman being escorted around the CB by the CP.
Do you not believe your lying eyes?

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@metal-brain said
You cannot even prove he lied, let alone explain why he might have.
You saw the video of the Q Shaman being escorted around the CB by the CP.
Do you not believe your lying eyes?
Of course Ive seen the video, gomer. Q Shaman pleaded guilty. Capital police repeatedly asked him to peacefully leave the building, and he and others refused. He was non violent and repentant afterwards. Some of these types of people exist in every riot.

Tucker found a quiet moment on the video during a bank robbery, and uses it to convince you the bank was never robbed? Come on, you're not that gullible are you?


@averagejoe1 said
Note how Suzianne and her close-to-the-vest sidekicks will say something that is an opinion as if it is a fact. Why would she confuse people like Sonhouse and me by saying that the video is 'doctored'. ??? I took that as a true statement and taught it to my tender-eared children while home schooling them this morning. Dam.
She chided me about my 'source' on another thread. Well, I will never rely on any of her info any more!!! She is no source, no sirree.
She always does that. So does wildgrass and sonhouse. I understand why they were duped though. There are a lot of websites spreading the same lies. I am sure it seems like they could not all possibly be wrong....but they are.

If they are going to claim the video is doctored nothing will pull them out of denial.
Now the trend will be them denying everything the see and hear is real.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/kG4mOMKPICHO/


@wildgrass said
Of course Ive seen the video, gomer. Q Shaman pleaded guilty. Capital police repeatedly asked him to peacefully leave the building, and he and others refused. He was non violent and repentant afterwards. Some of these types of people exist in every riot.

Tucker found a quiet moment on the video during a bank robbery, and uses it to convince you the bank was never robbed? Come on, you're not that gullible are you?
"Capital police repeatedly asked him to peacefully leave the building"

What is your source of information?
If you are going to claim they only escorted him out of the building you need to prove that too. no1 tried that and failed to prove it. Don't make up crap you cannot prove like he did. PROVIDE YOUR SOURCES OF INFORMATION.


@metal-brain said
"Capital police repeatedly asked him to peacefully leave the building"

What is your source of information?
If you are going to claim they only escorted him out of the building you need to prove that too. no1 tried that and failed to prove it. Don't make up crap you cannot prove like he did. PROVIDE YOUR SOURCES OF INFORMATION.
Actually I posted video showing Capitol Police escorting him from the building.

That apparently isn't "proof" enough in your demented mind.

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@metal-brain said
She always does that. So does wildgrass and sonhouse. I understand why they were duped though. There are a lot of websites spreading the same lies. I am sure it seems like they could not all possibly be wrong....but they are.

If they are going to claim the video is doctored nothing will pull them out of denial.
Now the trend will be them denying everything the see and hear is real.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/kG4mOMKPICHO/
He signed a confession, among hundreds who did.

The capital police officers have testified.

All parties involved agree to a different set of facts than what tucker wants you to believe.

You trust tuckers doctored video over that? Seriously how are you this gullible?


@no1marauder said
Actually I posted video showing Capitol Police escorting him from the building.

That apparently isn't "proof" enough in your demented mind.
That is proof they didn't escort him anywhere else? The CP did not even know which doors were unlocked and led him down dead ends. Didn't they know where the exit was?

Keep fooling yourself into thinking one video clip of him leaving proves what you claim. Non demented people know better. They didn't even know where they were leading Q. YOU MORON!


@wildgrass said
He signed a confession, among hundreds who did.

The capital police officers have testified.

All parties involved agree to a different set of facts than what tucker wants you to believe.

You trust tuckers doctored video over that? Seriously how are you this gullible?
Without any coercion at all like the threat of lengthy incarceration if they didn't.
It is super obvious to me that you are trying to deceive yourself into maintaining a lie you were told. Why isn't it obvious to you?

Be honest. Were they told to sign it or rot in prison? Which option would you take Mr. self deceiver?


@metal-brain said
That is proof they didn't escort him anywhere else? The CP did not even know which doors were unlocked and led him down dead ends. Didn't they know where the exit was?

Keep fooling yourself into thinking one video clip of him leaving proves what you claim. Non demented people know better. They didn't even know where they were leading Q. YOU MORON!
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1635355093548560384

I demolished all the same false claims you are making now in this thread back in March: https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/the-new-videos-of-jan-6-will-defeat-all-of-your-posts.196377

The destruction starts in earnest on page 13 of that thread.

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@no1marauder said
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1635355093548560384

I demolished all the same false claims you are making now in this thread back in March: https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/the-new-videos-of-jan-6-will-defeat-all-of-your-posts.196377

The destruction starts in earnest on page 13 of that thread.
You are an idiot. Did I ever claim he was not escorted out?
Prove he was not escorted after he entered.

The Capitol police escorted him to locked doors. Is it your position that the CP do not know where the exit is? You can keep embarrassing yourself if you insist, but you have no possible way to prove where the CP were escorting him unless you are familiar with the layout of the CB.

How ridiculous are you going be with your silly denial? You have proved absolutely nothing!

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@metal-brain said
Without any coercion at all like the threat of lengthy incarceration if they didn't.
It is super obvious to me that you are trying to deceive yourself into maintaining a lie you were told. Why isn't it obvious to you?

Be honest. Were they told to sign it or rot in prison? Which option would you take Mr. self deceiver?
Hundreds of people signed confessions under threat? Jan 6 was peaceful? Surely you are not just saying this to justify tuckers lie?

Read the q Shaman confession. He is not just pleading guilty. He explains what happened. He explains where he went wrong and why. He disobeyed direct orders from law enforcement. Why would he admit this if not true? It's not even a crime he was charged with. It's all corroborated by capital police.

Everyone who was there is lying except tucker? Come on. You're drinking the Kool aid, sucker.


@wildgrass said
Hundreds of people signed confessions under threat? Jan 6 was peaceful? Surely you are not just saying this to justify tuckers lie?

Read the q Shaman confession. He is not just pleading guilty. He explains what happened. He explains where he went wrong and why. He disobeyed direct orders from law enforcement. Why would he admit this if not true? It's not even a crime he ...[text shortened]... ce.

Everyone who was there is lying except tucker? Come on. You're drinking the Kool aid, sucker.
" He explains where he went wrong and why"

And what did he explain?
I don't even know what you are saying is true.
What is your source of information?


@wildgrass
"Read the q Shaman confession"

What confession? Post it and I will read it.
Is it a written confession or a mere pre sentence verbal apology to the judge?


@vivify said
The same way any publication like Reuters fact-checks their material.

But then again I guess you could never truly know. Maybe the Wall Street Journal, the Guardian and the BBC are full of crap. We all just assume their reporting is true but honestly can't really know.
I laughed out loud at this...

The same way any publication like Reuters fact-checks their material.

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@metal-brain said
@wildgrass
"Read the q Shaman confession"

What confession? Post it and I will read it.
Is it a written confession or a mere pre sentence verbal apology to the judge?
It is a written confession. easy to google. Didn't they post it on ZEROHEDGE???

Once he was caught, he admits "we physically fought our way in..." and "I should not have been there. Period." He signed a document saying that he refused direct orders from police officers to leave the building on multiple occassions.

No one in government coerced him to write that. Do try to keep up, maybe modify your reading materials every once in a while. He's been in and is now out of prison. This is a years old story.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1430996/download
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/17/1056225488/self-styled-qanon-shaman-is-sentenced-to-41-months-in-capitol-riot

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