@wildgrass
More examples of the intellectual laziness of Metallic brain, or worse, I think he knew full well what sham said but just trying to weaponize it any way he can for his own sick agenda, which is to destroy the US as a democracy, he hates the US and will tell you so, as a card carrying communist.
@sonhouse saidLaziness, maybe. Certainly there's a willingness to ignore large important pieces of information in favor of small obscure counterfactuals
@wildgrass
More examples of the intellectual laziness of Metallic brain, or worse, I think he knew full well what sham said but just trying to weaponize it any way he can for his own sick agenda, which is to destroy the US as a democracy, he hates the US and will tell you so, as a card carrying communist.
@wildgrass saidThat NPR link you posted says nothing of the sort.
It is a written confession. easy to google. Didn't they post it on ZEROHEDGE???
Once he was caught, he admits "we physically fought our way in..." and "I should not have been there. Period." He signed a document saying that he refused direct orders from police officers to leave the building on multiple occassions.
No one in government coerced him to write that. Do try ...[text shortened]... www.npr.org/2021/11/17/1056225488/self-styled-qanon-shaman-is-sentenced-to-41-months-in-capitol-riot
"No one in government coerced him to write that."
Wilgrass, even you are not this stupid. You are telling me that no one forced him to incriminate himself. Is that what you would do if charged with a crime? You still have not provided any evidence Chansley signed a written confession.
The 'QAnon Shaman' and other Capitol rioters who regret pleading guilty
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66169914
Where is the written confession? All I see is an apology to the judge. This is common to orally apologize in hopes of a reduced sentence. Don't be a chump. Either stop repeating lies like a parrot or stop making up lies to avoid admitting you are wrong.
@sonhouse saidLaziness? How so?
@wildgrass
More examples of the intellectual laziness of Metallic brain, or worse, I think he knew full well what sham said but just trying to weaponize it any way he can for his own sick agenda, which is to destroy the US as a democracy, he hates the US and will tell you so, as a card carrying communist.
I think that is your psychological projection. Are you lazy and insecure about it? Is that secret shame for being lazy why you are projecting it onto me? If you call me lazy does it help you to suppress your shame of being lazy? Is your wife calling you lazy a lot and it bothers you?
Who is reminding you that you are intellectually lazy? It must really bother you to dishonestly project it onto others. Now I know it gets to you. Thanks. Now I am going to remind you how lazy you are often. I see through you.
@metal-brain saidYou deny he signed a confession but insist that the signed confession was coerced?
That NPR link you posted says nothing of the sort.
"No one in government coerced him to write that."
Wilgrass, even you are not this stupid. You are telling me that no one forced him to incriminate himself. Is that what you would do if charged with a crime? You still have not provided any evidence Chansley signed a written confession.
The 'QAnon Shaman' and othe ...[text shortened]... p. Either stop repeating lies like a parrot or stop making up lies to avoid admitting you are wrong.
You can Google it
@wildgrass
These assshoes trying to rewrite history are complicit in the insurrection, and are preparing for insurrection #2 hoping it will work this time.
@sonhouse saidYour constant references to the repubs destroying democracy.............hey, how can we be a democracy if your party continues to push for giveaway programs, for lack of a better phrase?
@wildgrass
More examples of the intellectual laziness of Metallic brain, or worse, I think he knew full well what sham said but just trying to weaponize it any way he can for his own sick agenda, which is to destroy the US as a democracy, he hates the US and will tell you so, as a card carrying communist.
If you take money from my taxes and use it for extraneous payments to dependents and parasites, I sure don't get much of a feeling of democracy. You and Shav's USA cousin might, but I don't.
Maybe we have diff def of democracy. Yours seems to require one person to be connected in some way to another. Am I close?
@metal-brain saidWhat an insufferable boob.
Laziness? How so?
I think that is your psychological projection. Are you lazy and insecure about it? Is that secret shame for being lazy why you are projecting it onto me? If you call me lazy does it help you to suppress your shame of being lazy? Is your wife calling you lazy a lot and it bothers you?
Who is reminding you that you are intellectually lazy? It must r ...[text shortened]... know it gets to you. Thanks. Now I am going to remind you how lazy you are often. I see through you.
@wildgrass saidHe did NOT sign a confession that I am aware of. He gave the judge an oral pre sentence apology that is as common as dirt. I don't google anything because google sucks. I brave it or duck duck it. Maybe that is your problem. Google could be intentionally putting misinformation on their first few pages of your search results.
You deny he signed a confession but insist that the signed confession was coerced?
You can Google it
Why are you naive enough to still use google? Are you clueless? Do you want your search results to be manipulated to influence your opinions? That is exactly what they do. Are you aware of that?
The irony of this thread you created is that you don't even know what is real.
You think apologies are signed confessions. Why would Chansley sign a confession if he did not have to? You are being ridiculous and you are spreading misinformation on a thread called "what's real and what's not".
Now....either admit he did not sign a confession or that it was a coerced confession.
@sonhouse
Netanyahu ‘fabricated’ video to influence US policy on Palestine.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu used a crudely doctored video clip of Mahmoud Abbas, showing the Palestinian president making inflammatory remarks, to sway US President Donald Trump’s policy on the Middle East.
The sensational allegation was made by veteran Washington Post correspondent and author Bob Woodward in his new book Rage.
Woodward, who chronicles some of Trump’s most consequential foreign policy decisions in the 392-page volume, said that Trump changed US policy towards the Palestinians after Netanyahu showed him a crudely forged video of Abbas ordering murders.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200914-netanyahu-fabricated-video-to-influence-us-policy-on-palestine/
@metal-brain saidWhat did he write, then, in the pre sentencing apology, in which he confessed to crimes?
He did NOT sign a confession that I am aware of. He gave the judge an oral pre sentence apology that is as common as dirt. I don't google anything because google sucks. I brave it or duck duck it. Maybe that is your problem. Google could be intentionally putting misinformation on their first few pages of your search results.
Why are you naive enough to still use google ...[text shortened]... hat's not".
Now....either admit he did not sign a confession or that it was a coerced confession.
Specifically what did he write about disobeying direct orders by law enforcement?
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@wildgrass saidHe didn't write anything that I am aware of. Pre sentence apologies are oral as was Chansley's. I think you were misinformed. No lawyer would allow his client to do that after his client pleaded not guilty. It would undercut the not guilty plea and makes no sense at all. It would only make sense at sentencing.
What did he write, then, in the pre sentencing apology, in which he confessed to crimes?
Specifically what did he write about disobeying direct orders by law enforcement?
The only way he would possibly write a written confession is in return for a plea deal, but I have seen no evidence of that either. What is your source of information?
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The 'QAnon Shaman' and other Capitol rioters who regret pleading guilty
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66169914
I think you got confused by his lawyer's statements made. Chansley did not write anything. Read the article above.
@metal-brain saidThey regret pleading guilty only after seeing tucker lie about what happened.
He didn't write anything that I am aware of. Pre sentence apologies are oral as was Chansley's. I think you were misinformed. No lawyer would allow his client to do that after his client pleaded not guilty. It would undercut the not guilty plea and makes no sense at all. It would only make sense at sentencing.
The only way he would possibly write a written confession i ...[text shortened]... t confused by his lawyer's statements made. Chansley did not write anything. Read the article above.
He's now asking his lawyer why they didn't try lying earlier.