@averagejoe1 saidActually you right wingers hate the America that is and want an America that was.
Can you explain yourselves? How else do you think you can win us over to be liberals if we don't understand . Giving us free stuff is just not going to cut it.
You see, we love America, and want Smaller government. Quite a dichotomy, don't you think?
@no1marauder saidYou are not ignorant Snhouse,,excuse me, I mean Marauder.. Cn you read the thread heading and tell us the logic of wanting big government while hating the government? Your answer is pukely liberal, sounds like Suzianne. Rise up!!!!
Actually you right wingers hate the America that is and want an America that was.
@averagejoe1 saidYour thread title is based on the right wing propaganda lie that anybody who doesn't agree with their warped view of what the US should be "hates America".
You are not ignorant Snhouse,,excuse me, I mean Marauder.. Cn you read the thread heading and tell us the logic of wanting big government while hating the government? Your answer is pukely liberal, sounds like Suzianne. Rise up!!!!
One cannot have a rational discussion based on a false premise.
@averagejoe1 saidDo we have to ignore the evils of the U.S. government in order to want its citizens taken care of?
Can you explain yourselves? How else do you think you can win us over to be liberals if we don't understand . Giving us free stuff is just not going to cut it.
You see, we love America, and want Smaller government. Quite a dichotomy, don't you think?
Should we overlook constant U.S. invasions and toppling of governments in order to demand basic healthcare for all citizens? Do we need to accept systemic racism so people have livable minimum wages?
There's no contradiction in hating America's wrongdoings while demanding they take take better care of it's citizens.
@no1marauder saidI said it and i’m glad!😛
Your thread title is based on the right wing propaganda lie that anybody who doesn't agree with their warped view of what the US should be "hates America".
One cannot have a rational discussion based on a false premise.
While on the subject, tell us then what your perfect world will be. Note that if you are ‘genuous, that some people will have to build (common labor) the house that the rich coat-and-tie (moneyed person) ,who is a job creator, will buy and live in. They are not equal, so let us see you wrestle with that one.🤔
@averagejoe1 saidneither job creator or worker can exist without the other
I said it and i’m glad!😛
While on the subject, tell us then what your perfect world will be. Note that if you are ‘genuous, that some people will have to build (common labor) the house that the rich coat-and-tie (moneyed person) ,who is a job creator, will buy and live in. They are not equal, so let us see you wrestle with that one.🤔
they are equal
@averagejoe1 saidNo person should "have to" labor for another.
I said it and i’m glad!😛
While on the subject, tell us then what your perfect world will be. Note that if you are ‘genuous, that some people will have to build (common labor) the house that the rich coat-and-tie (moneyed person) ,who is a job creator, will buy and live in. They are not equal, so let us see you wrestle with that one.🤔
As I've explained to you many times, human beings don't need an elite few to "create jobs." We can find useful work that doesn't line their pockets without them.
@lemondrop saidOK, a good comment, makes sense. Equal in many many ways, given they live in US. So, what is the beef with libs who want equality, when it already exists? What have I missed after thousands of texts on the subject? Your comment is correct, ....but why did it just give me a headache, felt like a short circuit.
neither job creator or worker can exist without the other
they are equal
@no1marauder saidOK. It is in stone, I will chisel with you. “” No person should have to labor for another “. Goes without saying, I would think.
No person should "have to" labor for another.
As I've explained to you many times, human beings don't need an elite few to "create jobs." We can find useful work that doesn't line their pockets without them.
And, human beings, like me, can do a job, create a job, or a business, without ‘needing an elite few”.I get all that, so what is your point. Please be specific. Interesting stuff.
@lemondrop saidThe deli owner makes $2000/day, the worker makes $100. Each needs the other. Great observation. But many of your contemporaries have said it is not fair. Is that fair? I’m trying to get Marauder to zero in on simple facts, hoprfu.ly no philosophy or links.
neither job creator or worker can exist without the other
they are equal
@averagejoe1 saidabsolutely nobody complaining about the gross injustice that is tied to capitalism means to make the deli owner struggling to keep his shop open pay his workers more.
The deli owner makes $2000/day, the worker makes $100. Each needs the other. Great observation. But many of your contemporaries have said it is not fair. Is that fair? I’m trying to get Marauder to zero in on simple facts, hoprfu.ly no philosophy or links.
Absolutely everyone on the left is trying to make Walmart, the one putting that deli owner out of business through rigging the system, pay more in taxes so that the small business owners get the tax cuts they need and their workers get healthcare and education.
You mentioning the deli owner means you're either a troll trying to get a response out of us or too stupid to function without fox news's hand firmly up your sun don't shine hole, working you like a muppet.
@averagejoe1 saidSo one makes 20 times what the other does but they are "equal" because "each needs the other"?
The deli owner makes $2000/day, the worker makes $100. Each needs the other. Great observation. But many of your contemporaries have said it is not fair. Is that fair? I’m trying to get Marauder to zero in on simple facts, hoprfu.ly no philosophy or links.
@no1marauder saidThe fact that eah serves a purpose for the other, thus being ‘equal’ , has absolutely nothing to do with how much money each makes. This is where our discussions go awry🤔🤔🤔
So one makes 20 times what the other does but they are "equal" because "each needs the other"?