@Metal-Brain saidImagining a China-hypothetical has nothing to do with Trump kicking Iran butt. Yo make as much sense as the wayward sonhouse.
Why don't you want to go back to 1953 and talk about how the CIA overthrew their democratically elected leader and replaced him with a brutal dictator to serve US interests?
https://www.britannica.com/event/1953-coup-in-Iran
You were duped by out of context propaganda. Now...imagine China overthrows the USA by coup and installs a dictator into power. No hard feelings toward China? Be honest. You would be outraged.
Why don't we go back 73 years? How bout the England vs Scotland 1746 confrontation in Culloden!!!!!! How about the kidnapping and imprisonment of your cousin Charlie for 440 days? You sure can screw up a thread.
How bout the Now of wiping out these savages. Only savages would keep fighting the world's largest military, our dominance over them is quite justified.
@AverageJoe1 saidDid you learn anything from it?
Suzianne grab your friends and come observe the discussion just above with Kmax and myself. Rare stuff.
Probably not, you never do.
@Rajk999 saidWhat you mean is '... as people are stupid.'
Thats up to the people. They have been given that opportunity by Israel and the US. If they dont take it then its their fault.... both in Iran and the US. I suspect in the US Trump is still going to be a favourite... as the alternatives are weaklings
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@AverageJoe1 saidDon't misrepresent.
So, could you not round out your post for a change and tell us what you mean about regime chain in America… Do you mean replace Trump? With whom? Please. Be honest. Can they handle all the irons in the fire??
Kamala would find it hot, Newsome, gets his hairdo singed, AOC, Omar, all women in a war? Please tell us
If the American people are tired of war, as MTG says, then let's elect women who WILL keep us out of these testosterone-poisoned, willy-waving wars.
You are not your own best friend in these forums, just like neither is Trump.
Macron is right. The military is for defense and protection, not creating wars made from our own hubris.
@AverageJoe1 saidEveryone knows what they are, except for suck-ups like you.
You fail to mention what the lies and info are.
Please do.
@AverageJoe1 saidIf they are close to having a nuke, you can blame Trump who pulled out of the most successful treaty we had with Iran, giving them a bright green light to go back to their bomb hunt.
You mention obliteration almost as much as you mention 34 felonies. That gets really old. If I win a football game and say I own that field, I don’t really own that field. It is a figure of speech to make a point. You are so naïve….. to obliterate something is to make it indistinct. He was not saying that he made the area indistinct. Do you get it now.
Next, how do ...[text shortened]... In situations where things change, hourly, then the story… Follow me… Changes every hour. Jesus.
@Suzianne saidActually, no, An unfortunate unrelated response from Kmax, he gives us a quasi-analogy of a guy (Iran leader) imprisoning 200 people, whereupon I pointed out a new landlord (new Iran leader) builds a bigger basement and locks up more people. What an idiot. He then writes a 2nd post which is nothing but history. A student of Marauder, it appears. Boring stuff.
Did you learn anything from it?
Probably not, you never do.
So, nothing new. So how is your day of learning going? I recommend some Sonhouse reading, enlightening us of his discontent with Trump's use of the word obliteration. My grandson's baseball team obliterated the other team, 22 to 3!!!!
@Rajk999 saidJust wait for Armageddon. You'll have your blood.
Its not my war and neither is it yours. Americans are interested in a wide variety of things including the following:
- security
- getting rid of Islam
- helping others get rid of rogue governments
- assisting Israel
- peace in the Middle East
- the price of oil.
Whether or not you are interested in these things is or no consequence. We can see you had no interest in the 50,000 Iranians killed by their govt for protesting... hypocrite.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou haven't learned a damned thing.
Actually, no, An unfortunate unrelated response from Kmax, he gives us a quasi-analogy of a guy (Iran leader) imprisoning 200 people, whereupon I pointed out a new landlord (new Iran leader) builds a bigger basement and locks up more people. What an idiot. He then writes a 2nd post which is nothing but history. A student of Marauder, it appears. Boring stuff.
...[text shortened]... s use of the word obliteration. My grandson's baseball team obliterated the other team, 22 to 3!!!!
Typical.
But you still keep flapping your jaw.
@Indonesia-Phil saidYes, indeed.
By far the best outcome of the war with Iran would be for the people to rise up against tyranny, and for there to be a regime change, in America I mean, of course.
As I have said, often those out of the country see the reality of things with a far clearer lens than the bunkum they throw at us every day.
@no1marauder saidFinally! Clarity.
No matter how many times you say this BS, the US and Iran have not been at war for 47 years. We've pursued policies in the Middle East which threaten that and virtually every other non-Israeli nation there and they have responded but that does not make a war. Otherwise, as I pointed out to Mike before he threw his hissy fit, the USSR would have been justified in going to ...[text shortened]... r seems to be his new "strategy" but needing China's help is a weird way to support "America First".
@Suzianne saidFriends? Don't get you there. This is a debate forum, suzianne. Ideas, not friends. whew.
Don't misrepresent.
If the American people are tired of war, as MTG says, then let's elect women who WILL keep us out of these testosterone-poisoned, willy-waving wars.
You are not your own best friend in these forums, just like neither is Trump.
Macron is right. The military is for defense and protection, not creating wars made from our own hubris.
Women?? War is not about gender, it is about a govt willing to defend itself and its interests. Gender does not win wars, ,,,,deterrence does. And Macron is a faerie, just look at him, I think he trims his eyebrows. You are right, no country should 'create wars'.....it should only use their military to defend itself against terror, killing, bombing, kidnapping, threats of nuclear annihilation, invasions of people into our country, such as that. Do any of these ring a bell??
Margaret Thatcher is renowned for sending her navy to falklands, so your testosterone thingy is stupid.
What is your take on Kamala as a wartime president?
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@AverageJoe1 saidNon sequitur, of course.
Friends? Don't get you there. This is a debate forum, suzianne. Ideas, not friends. whew.
Women?? War is not about gender, it is about a govt willing to defend itself and its interests. Gender does not win wars, ,,,,deterrence does. And Macron is a faerie, just look at him, I think he trims his eyebrows. You are right, no country should 'create wars'.....it sho ...[text shortened]... ur testosterone thingy is stupid.
What is your take on Kamala as a wartime president?
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And Thatcher had to present as a woman, because Reagan (Ronald Reagan!) was in love with her/him.
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@AverageJoe1 saidTypical MAGA arrogance and ignorance.
Who cares why the Iran revolution started.? Why is irrelevant, I have said it on the Forum for years.
You dont get cause and effect, obviously.
I would like to see how you would react to 40 years of sanctions and whether you would fight the power. A while back you lot got riled up about cheaper healthcare, because obviously next step tyranny right! But in world terms, you lot simply have not one frikking clue what living under true hardship looks like. You have zero empathy but you are proud about the zero fvcks you give. Trump is still going to roll you and then you might start to appreciate a small fraction of what other people have been going through for all of their lives.