@AverageJoe1 saidWell the "bad people" had to contend with an 8 year war with Iraq after the "bad people" came into power and tell me who was Iraq acting as a proxy for during this first decade of theocratic rule in Iran? Who sold Iraq all the military support it needed in the 80s? Who propped up the Saddam Hussein regime to wage war against Iran JoJoe? It was the US JoJoe!
Yours is a leap in logic, using historical grievances to justify or excuse the behavior of the current regime.
Before 1979, Iran was not threatening Israel, building proxy militias, or chanting “death to America.” Those policies came AFTER the bad people took power.
And since the 80's who used the UN to help enforce economic and trade sanctions against Iran which would have been a bitter pill to swallow, keeping who exactly in the cross-hairs of their anger. If you guessed America again, then you are correct.
So your assertion is incorrect. America since 1980 has exerted a constant pressure through its proxies (Iraq, the UN and Israel) for 47 years. War, economic and trade embargoes decade after decade, and your assertion is that Iran has acted irrationally?
If someone puts you in a chokehold, do you have a right to resist?
@no1marauder saidIts not weird. People have to be sure that all threats have been removed. Its takes time. You are like the impatient child ... Mommy are we there yet... every 5 minutes in a 60 minute trip.
Trump keeps saying that too but somehow no tankers want to risk passage through the Strait. Weird, huh?
Land based anti-ship missiles can close a small water passage just as effectively as naval warships.
@Rajk999 saidGas prices up 25% in the US since this fiasco started. That billions extra US consumers are paying every day because of a war the majority oppose.
Its not weird. People have to be sure that all threats have been removed. Its takes time. You are like the impatient child ... Mommy are we there yet... every 5 minutes in a 60 minute trip.
@kmax87 saidTypical ... your constant support for, and making ridiculous excuses for these rogue Islamic regimes. These leaders need to be killed.
Well the "bad people" had to contend with an 8 year war with Iraq after the "bad people" came into power and tell me who was Iraq acting as a proxy for during this first decade of theocratic rule in Iran? Who sold Iraq all the military support it needed in the 80s? Who propped up the Saddam Hussein regime to wage war against Iran JoJoe? It was the US JoJoe!
And since the ...[text shortened]... t Iran has acted irrationally?
If someone puts you in a chokehold, do you have a right to resist?
@no1marauder saidSo what. This is the result of all wars. There are shortages and prices go up. Another little child behaviour.
Gas prices up 25% in the US since this fiasco started. That billions extra US consumers are paying every day because of a war the majority oppose.
@no1marauder saidYou fool .. the mass killings went on in the last few months when these criminal Islamic leaders massacred about 50,000 of their people for protesting. These are rogue governments that need to be removed. The US and Israel are taking a stand against this government
Opposing unnecessary mass killing is hardly the act of a child. Quite the contrary.
Did you complain while this government were killing their people?
No .. you said nothing. Yet another indication you support rogue extremist Islamic regimes.
You are a blooming child.
@Rajk999 saidMost Americans aren't interested in your Holy war. Killing Muslims might give you a stiffy but it's an inadequate reason for the evils of war.
All wars against Islam is just, by default.
This war has very little chance of removing the present oppressive regime so it is pointless mass murder, nothing more.
@no1marauder saidIs this a news report!?!?!
Trump is now begging China(!) and other nations to send warships to escort tankers through the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran, despite having nothing of military value left according to him, as managed to effectively close.https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikestunson/2026/03/14/trump-urges-china-uk-and-other-countries-to-send-warships-to-strait-of-hormuz/
On a DEBATE forum??
Help me Rhonda
@no1marauder saidIts not my war and neither is it yours. Americans are interested in a wide variety of things including the following:
Most Americans aren't interested in your Holy war. Killing Muslims might give you a stiffy but it's an inadequate reason for the evils of war.
This war has very little chance of removing the present oppressive regime so it is pointless mass murder, nothing more.
- security
- getting rid of Islam
- helping others get rid of rogue governments
- assisting Israel
- peace in the Middle East
- the price of oil.
Whether or not you are interested in these things is or no consequence. We can see you had no interest in the 50,000 Iranians killed by their govt for protesting... hypocrite.
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@no1marauder saidYou are playing word games with the phrase “war.” A conflict doesn’t have to involve a formal declaration of war by Congress to be real. The United States hasn’t issued a formal declaration since World War II, yet we still fought major wars in Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, War in Afghanistan, and Iraq War. None of those had formal declarations either, but nobody seriously argues they weren’t wars. So I’ll put a mark in my column, thank you.
No matter how many times you say this BS, the US and Iran have not been at war for 47 years. We've pursued policies in the Middle East which threaten that and virtually every other non-Israeli nation there and they have responded but that does not make a war. Otherwise, as I pointed out to Mike before he threw his hissy fit, the USSR would have been justified in going to ...[text shortened]... r seems to be his new "strategy" but needing China's help is a weird way to support "America First".
Iran has spent decades funding, training, and directing proxy groups that attack Americans and our allies—groups like Hezbollah and militias that killed U.S. soldiers in Iraq. That’s not peaceful coexistence; it’s a long-running proxy conflict. Geez.
Your Soviet–Afghan War comparison doesn’t hold up either. The U.S. supported Afghanistan . They were resisting a Soviet invasion of their own country.!!! Iran, on the other hand, Iran actively funds armed groups across the Middle East to destabilize govts.
As for “begging other countries,” that’s called alliances. The U.S. has relied on allied cooperation since World War II. Working with partners isn’t weakness—it’s how international security has worked for 80 years. Your saying that…..Now, THAT is weakness. For the record, I assume that by your saying that we asked for Chinese Help means that Chinese government is OK with our invading Iran.. you and China disagree on attacking Iran. Very interesting.
So the real question isn’t whether Congress used the exact word “war.” The question is whether Iran has been conducting hostile actions against the U.S. and its allies for decades. The evidence says yes. So your dancing around with this War hypotheses is quite irrelevant. Is it not? We could call it a skirmish if you want to, but Trump plans to wrap up Iran.
Ha I just heard on a talk show that no one knows what Trump’s plan is ha ha ha ha ha ha’ No kidding!!!. This should really make sueann mad because she thinks he should be telling us what his plan is. Do you think he should be telling us what his plan is marauder??
@Rajk999 saidThe current action does indeed help/embolden Israel, but will not improve security in the region. (it's making the Middle East less secure). It certainly won't get rid of Islam or unseat the current regime in Iran, and is having a negative impact on the price of oil.
Its not my war and neither is it yours. Americans are interested in a wide variety of things including the following:
- security
- getting rid of Islam
- helping others get rid of rogue governments
- assisting Israel
- peace in the Middle East
- the price of oil.
Whether or not you are interested in these things is or no consequence. We can see you had no interest in the 50,000 Iranians killed by their govt for protesting... hypocrite.
This is a terrible blunder by Trump. It will be his legacy, and he fears it.