Originally posted by rubberjaw30These people are stupid, i live with so many muslims, they r very nice to me. I live in saudi arabia and now in dubai, and meet many of them. These people who blow themselves are not following islam and ruining the image about muslims, but they tell me those who blow themselves up in palestine against israeli army is call jihad because palestine have no weapons to defend themselves like israeli, so they make themselves a bomb to attack israeli army because they attack them so they want to defend themselves and the country and holy mosque. so they die in allah sake.
i already addresed that...
no, they aren't all terrorists...
but how can they continue to follow a religion that has such a loophole to allow someone to kill themselves and others for heaven with virgins?
The world trade center bomb is just stupid. and the bombs in Iraq.
- LoLLe
Originally posted by Red Nightno of course not, that would be silly.
But doesn't belief in existence on some level create existence?
the world existed before there were any humans to believe in it.
As for your other post, the blood did exist, the plane did exist but the god (in my opinion) did not.
Doing an act in the name of a belief does not make the belief a reality, just the act.
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Originally posted by Loletteno, really, what are you trying to say here?
These people are stupid, i live with so many muslims, they r very nice to me. I live in saudi arabia and now in dubai, and meet many of them. These people who blow themselves are not following islam and ruining the image about muslims, but they tell me those who blow themselves up in palestine against israeli army is call jihad because palestine have no weap ...[text shortened]... in allah sake.
The world trade center bomb is just stupid. and the bombs in Iraq.
- LoLLe
Originally posted by Red NightNone of the things these people did are impossible to do without the existence of a god. They were motivated by their beliefs, which again only shows that beliefs can have a strong psychological impact on people. I doubt they have gone to their respective Heavens when they died. I also don't believe that someone who jumps out of the window in the belief that his god will stop him in mid-air will stop in mid-air. I do believe that someone could be motivated to jump out of the window because of a belief, though.
You're arguing semantics.
When Mother Theresa fed the poor of India in the name of God, did the food not exist?
When Godfrey of Bouillon slew the "Infidels" so that their blood flowed down the streets of Jerusalm up to the third ankle joint of horses, did the blood not exist?
When Mohammed Atta screamed "allah akbar" as his plane slammed into the ...[text shortened]... his/her/its name. It is hard for me to imagine more palpable proof of existence than that.
Originally posted by rubberjaw30for the same reason why i hate cold callers trying to sell me double glazing when i'm eating my dinner. it's annoying.
why prejudice against me because I believe in my religion's call to try tospread my belief?
I haven't met you, so to say i hate you is rude and impolite. I apoligise for this. I just get so wound up.🙂
Originally posted by jonrothwellwe all do when someone else argues against what we believe in
for the same reason why i hate cold callers trying to sell me double glazing when i'm eating my dinner. it's annoying.
I haven't met you, so to say i hate you is rude and impolite. I apoligise for this. I just get so wound up.🙂
its ok, i understand
Originally posted by Red NightI think you misunderstood Voltaire. And your logic doesn't make much sense.
There really isn't an option 3, as described by you.
Either God exists or We invented him.
Voltaire being full of rubbish doesn't add another option.
I don't care if you agree or not, you're agreement or disagreement doesn't change the fundamental truth in those options.
BTW, there is a third option, but I don't think you'll like it; God exists AND we invented him/them/her/it.
Originally posted by rubberjaw30to be fair i don't really know what i believe in, i just know it isn't any god. i don't think i even believe in a 'soul' ( Which makes my first post seem a bit ott). At the moment i don't think i do.
we all do when someone else argues against what we believe in
its ok, i understand
Originally posted by reinfeldThere's a sect called Vista??
i will try this a third time but since the automatic post deleter seems to catch a word that got thru with demonseed i will have to let you figure it out...it is not nice to use the name of an islamic sect ( has an s and a t in it ) as a
reference for human defecation...i am calling you out demonseed as a jerk.
..let me make myself very clear...it is spelt J E R K...now make a public apology...