Originally posted by SJ247I don't know about that. Apart from the Great Infiltration (which I have to admit I found quite funny), I'm not sure what you're talking about. I don't know what you mean by repeated nastiness.
It's not this instance alone that turns me off, it's the setup of having a very abrasive subgroup of a group, which is led by a moderator. I've been subjected to the nastiness repeatedly, and was not the first stonethrower. My clan has been attacked as well.
It reeks of favoritism (IMO), and is (IMO) not the way the place should be run.
Wait a second, let me find my fish-shield.
I rejoined the PFC recently purely and simply because they are a lot of people there that I like. Co-ordinated attacks on a chess clan really isn't their style.
Basically, Phlab's a good guy doing a difficult job pretty well. I disagreed with his original call, but I could see the logic. It was, as I said before, a judgement call. I personally think he was right to change his mind. But really, either way, it shouldn't be such a big deal. It's like everyone's turning into STANG.
I quite like you, SJ, but you are taking this far too seriously. It's just a website. They are just clans. Pay your money, play your chess; enjoy the soap opera if you must.
Originally posted by dottewellYou like everyone these days. From eudaimonism to kumbaya is just a short step.
I don't know about that. Apart from the Great Infiltration (which I have to admit I found quite funny), I'm not sure what you're talking about. I don't know what you mean by repeated nastiness.
I rejoined the PFC recently purely and simply because they are a lot of people there that I like. Co-ordinated attacks on a chess clan really isn't their style ...[text shortened]... hey are just clans. Pay your money, play your chess; enjoy the soap opera if you must.
Originally posted by dottewellI'm not going to bother bringing up examples and names, becasue I don't care to be bombarded. The overall feeling I get in the public forums is, if you object to a statement, or voice an opinion that doesn't line up with a certain group member's, you can expect to have past arguments twisted into nonsense, and backed by some of the group. Unfounded and disturbing accusations are made freely, and it is impossible to argue because your statements are ignored, or distorted into a different meaning.
I don't know about that. Apart from the Great Infiltration (which I have to admit I found quite funny), I'm not sure what you're talking about. I don't know what you mean by repeated nastiness.
I rejoined the PFC recently purely and simply because they are a lot of people there that I like. Co-ordinated attacks on a chess clan really isn't their style ...[text shortened]... hey are just clans. Pay your money, play your chess; enjoy the soap opera if you must.
Overall, the public forums, to me, are either boring because people have to tiptoe with each word, or mean spirited, which is why I've been staying away, for the most part.
Originally posted by SJ247Mean-spirited? Maybe. Tiptoe with each word? You should go to the debates forum. Some of the naked racism there makes my eyes water. I think the forums here are pretty liberally-moderated and irreverent. And I think Russ likes it that way.
Overall, the public forums, to me, are either boring because people have to tiptoe with each word, or mean spirited, which is why I've been staying away, for the most part.
Originally posted by dottewellSJ started on these forums with the intention to be irreverent and still hasn't recovered from the fact that most people weren't really that shocked.
Mean-spirited? Maybe. Tiptoe with each word? You should go to the debates forum. Some of the naked racism there makes my eyes water. I think the forums here are pretty liberally-moderated and irreverent. And I think Russ likes it that way.
When many made fun of her attempts she felt personally attacked and retreated to her little clan, so they can all pretend we are all close minded and can't handle when someone talks about sex.
Irreverence comes in many ways. Red Night is the perfect example.
Originally posted by PalynkaWhat are you talking about? Do you even know how I started in forums? I do.
SJ started on these forums with the intention to be irreverent and still hasn't recovered from the fact that most people weren't really that shocked.
When many made fun of her attempts she felt personally attacked and retreated to her little clan, so they can all pretend we are all close minded and can't handle when someone talks about sex.
Irreverence comes in many ways. Red Night is the perfect example.
Most people weren't shocked at what? I haven't tried shocking anyone, I've posted in the spirit of entertainment, period. Things got nasty when a small group of people started throwing accusations about me around, for no reason other than sick amusement.
And, my clan is far from little.
Originally posted by SJ247But maybe that's just people sticking up for their mates. I doubt they take it seriously, either.
I'm not saying tiptoe as in, if I say "bitch" will I get banned (even though other members don't?) I'm saying tiptoe when dealing with a certain group, because one can expect a severe backlash, which is guaranteed to turn extremely nasty, regardless of who is right.
I can't remember ever seeing anything "extremely nasty" here, to be honest.