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Originally posted by SeitseOoh you got me reeeeel good with those ones Cletus.
The times being... Tatcherism, a decrepit queen, and an unelected upper house?
LOL
You keep demonstrating that the stats were correct π
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Farage has always been a non entity and will soon realize (to his dismay) that his fizz no longer has any bubbles.
The out vote was brave as a short term slump in the economy was to be expected. Scotland will settle down and will also look back to see the out vote as the right decision (though of course never admit it).
Boris is the man to help us navigate the rough seas ahead. (I'm resisting making a Churchill comparison).
The out vote was brave as a short term slump in the economy was to be expected. Scotland will settle down and will also look back to see the out vote as the right decision (though of course never admit it).
Boris is the man to help us navigate the rough seas ahead. (I'm resisting making a Churchill comparison)
Farage has always been a non entity and will soon realize (to his dismay) that his fizz no longer has any bubbles.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeSorry, but though I dislike him, Farage now clearly is the most successful/important UK politician of recent decades.
Farage has always been a non entity and will soon realize (to his dismay) that his fizz no longer has any bubbles.
The out vote was brave as a short term slump in the economy was to be expected. Scotland will settle down and will also look back to see the out vote as the right decision (though of course never admit it).
Boris is the man to help us navigate the rough seas ahead. (I'm resisting making a Churchill comparison).
Originally posted by Rank outsiderNo he didn't. He rode a wave of somewhat latent political unrest. Proof? In the last general election UKIP got 15% of the votes and one seat. In the referendum, 73%of the edible population voted and and 52% of those chose: leave. 15% of the vote looks pretty shabby when it's your one agenda item. N one want Farage.
Sorry, but though I dislike him, Farage now clearly is the most successful/important UK politician of recent decades.
It was Alex Salmond, but Farage took a party and agenda that was widely dismissed as a lunatic fringe, won a national election and forced a referendum which was won.
Originally posted by divegeester15% is amazing for a single issue party, especially on our first pas the post system.
No he didn't. He rode a wave of somewhat latent political unrest. Proof? In the last general election UKIP got 15% of the votes and one seat. In the referendum, 73%of thkme edible population voted and and 52% of those chose: leave. 15% of the vote looks pretty shabby when it's your one agenda item. N one want Farage.
Farage is obsolete as he bloody well should be.
Originally posted by Rank outsiderIt's not the 15% that is the number in play here, it is the difference between the 15% and the 52%. Considering that 52% of the UK wants to leave the EU and that it is a highly motivating factor for voting, it is astonishing that UKIP didn't poll more in the last general election.
15% is amazing for a single issue party, especially on our first pas the post system.
And the 52% wouldn't have had the chance to vote Leave without him.
Do you really think Cameron would have offered the referendum if UKIP had carried on polling the 1-2% it was before he took over?
Originally posted by NoEarthlyReasonSo actually you do think leave voters are racist, but you can't find the fortitude to come out and say it, preferring instead to misrepresent your opponents by using words like "savages" in quotation marks as though someone actually said it. And you insinuate how leavers actually support far right opinion without providing a shread of evidence.
I don't think all the Brexiteers are racist, but I strongly suspect that 'maybe we will connect more with the Commonwealth' will turn out to be the white Commonwealth almost exclusively. They will find a way to keep out the 'savages'. And don't forget that EU migrants add four times as much to the British economy than those from anywhere else. ...[text shortened]... mpaign's protests over UKIP and Farage's fascistic propaganda were rather on the insincere side.