Originally posted by Rank outsiderAhhh Goldman Sachs, they paid Mrs Clinton heavy mulla so that she would give speeches telling them that she wasn't gonna real them in.
That might just count against you a tad in any application to rejoin the EU.
But with a little help from Goldman Sachs you should be able to work your way round this.
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-Removed-I'm not clear why you describe Fargue as "now (post Brexit) clearly is the most successful/important UK politician of recent decades."
Because I expressed myself clumsily. I did not mean say that he has 'now' become more important post Brexit (the opposite must be true). I meant 'now' as in I can now identify him as this important/successful for what he did.
Up till the referendum, his importance and success was doubtful. 'Now' it can be recognised (though we may differ on the extent). My bad.
I think my view is that I am identifying success and importance by answering the following questions:
1 How important was what he was trying to achieve?
2 How difficult was it to achieve?
3 Did he achieve it?
4 How key was he to achieving it?
I wouldn't really factor in whether he achieved what he did in the right way, or was anything other than an odious little prick. I was not looking to judge greatness, just impact and the recognition of the obstacles he faced.
And, of course, I was being provocative.