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@torunn said
Rusty, we can't accept that men do damage to young women just because they can't control their hormones.
Not in the catholic church. Men do the damage to young boys.


@torunn said
Rusty, we can't accept that men do damage to young women just because they can't control their hormones.
Is that what I said torunn or what you got from what I said?

Lets not make something out of nothing, we were talking about nude beaches.

-VR


@executioner-brand said
Not in the catholic church. Men do the damage to young boys.
Is that "ALL" men in the Catholic Churches? You can't blame a whole society for what some do.

-VR

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@very-rusty said
Is that what I said torunn or what you got from what I said?

Lets not make something out of nothing, we were talking about nude beaches.

-VR
@very-rusty said
Or hormones they have a problem controlling! ๐Ÿ˜‰

-VR


Umm, you were actually talking about hormones not being controlled. Did you forget what you typed?


@very-rusty said
Is that what I said torunn or what you got from what I said?

Lets not make something out of nothing, we were talking about nude beaches.

-VR
Yes, and I say we can't have it.

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@executioner-brand said
Not in the catholic church. Men do the damage to young boys.
Then they should choose another job - they are not suited for the one they have.

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@torunn said
It shouldn't be a sexual thing, but young men not used to the Swedish culture sometimes misunderstand and that creates unnecessary situations.
Of course you could say the same thing about young women who dress attractively. It doesn't mean they are asking men to harass them or pay them unwanted attention. The social rules remain exactly the same with nudity and groups of young men probably get that one wrong just the same in both contexts.


@petewxyz said
Of course you could say the same thing about young women who dress attractively. It doesn't mean they are asking men to harass them or pay them unwanted attention. The social rules remain exactly the same with nudity and groups of young men probably get that one wrong just the same in both contexts.
Exactly. Women shouldn't have to adjust to these circumstances and this is how the problems occur. The consequences would be impossible to live by here - in other cultures they still have that situation: women shouldn't be out late, shouldn't be alone when waiting for the bus, shouldn't dress like this or that, shouldn't take a jogging tour on their own etc etc.

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@Torunn ... in other cultures they still have that situation: women shouldn't be out late, shouldn't be alone when waiting for the bus, shouldn't dress like this or that, shouldn't take a jogging tour on their own etc etc.

Torunn, I can honestly say that if I was a woman in America I think I would
behave that way. So congrats on Sweden being enlightened.


@earl-of-trumps said
@Torunn ... in other cultures they still have that situation: women shouldn't be out late, shouldn't be alone when waiting for the bus, shouldn't dress like this or that, shouldn't take a jogging tour on their own etc etc.

Torunn, I can honestly say that if I was a woman in America I think I would
behave that way. So congrats on Sweden being enlightened.
Women have come a long way here and we don't accept any backlash.


@torunn said
Women have come a long way here and we don't accept any backlash.
I understand, Torrun, but it goes beyond that. It takes the Swedish men not to be
so inclined as to make the women worry.

So your whole society gets a thumbs-up, as I see it. Enlightenment.


@suzianne said
@very-rusty said
Or hormones they have a problem controlling! ๐Ÿ˜‰

-VR


Umm, you were actually talking about hormones not being controlled. Did you forget what you typed?
Not at all Suzie Q, many young men especially in their teens have a problem controlling themselves. Their hormones are out of control as we get older we learn how to control them. I've said things to women I wish I could take back as a teenager.


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-VR

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@earl-of-trumps said
I understand, Torrun, but it goes beyond that. It takes the Swedish men not to be
so inclined as to make the women worry.

So your whole society gets a thumbs-up, as I see it. Enlightenment.
It seems that men behave pretty much the way they have been brought up, and that can take a long time. ๐Ÿ™‚


@torunn said
It seems that men behave pretty much the way they have been brought up, and that can take a long time. ๐Ÿ™‚
What is ok and not ok seems to be in what country you happen to be in from what I can see.

-VR

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@very-rusty said
What is ok and not ok seems to be in what country you happen to be in from what I can see.

-VR
Yes, where you are and where you were brought up, pretty much.