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@petewxyz saidThe American culture is worse by far but that is beside the point.
This probably belongs in debates, but is it Scandinavia or the U.S. that has higher rates of: juvenile crime; childhood mental health problems; young people committing sexual offences?
Taking your kids to a nudist beach is just wrong.
If you had someone over for dinner would it be ok for them to expose themselves to your kids?
How is being at a beach any different?
@chesstachio saidThe difference is it's not the cultural norm. Basically it's only people outside the cultural normal for where you are that shock or cause offence. Personally I think the U.K. should look to learn from any culture where kids are growing up in a better way.
The American culture is worse by far but that is beside the point.
Taking your kids to a nudist beach is just wrong.
If you had someone over for dinner would it be ok for them to expose themselves to your kids?
How is being at a beach any different?
@chesstachio saidIf you had someone over for dinner would speedos or bikini be OK?
Taking your kids to a nudist beach is just wrong.
If you had someone over for dinner would it be ok for them to expose themselves to your kids?
How is being at a beach any different?
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@wolfgang59 saidNo.
If you had someone over for dinner would speedos or bikini be OK?
...well maybe super hot chicks 🤔
That is not nudity.
Don’t get involved wolfy...
You have kids and I know damn well you wouldn’t allow your co-worker to get naked at your house just because he was a nudist.
I dare you to say otherwise.
So would you take your daughters to a beach and allow that same co-worker to bust out his hammer for your kids?
I hope not.
@chesstachio saidYour argument was:
You have kids and I know damn well you wouldn’t allow your co-worker to get naked at your house just because he was a nudist.
How is being at a beach any different?
I think we can now both agree that is nonsense.
@chesstachio saidYou can hope for whatever you want.
So would you take your daughters to a beach and allow that same co-worker to bust out his hammer for your kids?
I hope not.
But I'd happily take my kids to a nudist beach as thousands do in Europe.
@chesstachio saidI'm guessing that you are a conservative American.
Any of you folk go to these euro beaches and see 300 pound naked people?
I know a young fit woman is beautiful but sorry I am not taking my kids to a beach where naked fat dudes and fat chicks can show my daughter their junk.
(I don’t actually have any kids...that I know of...but you people seem to be ignoring the pervert predators who can easily pretend to “not car ...[text shortened]... n the beach and they are naked so I am going to blast a dookie because after all...
It’s natural.
Always worried about what others are doing.
@chesstachio said"Obscene"
The original post I agree with...
Breast feeding is ok because most of the time it is concealed and not obscene and a baby needs it.
Walking around a beach with kids and some dude is swinging in the breeze is not needed.
I definitely don’t want to see it that’s for sure.
I think telling others what they "should" do is far more obscene.
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@chesstachio saidAt least here where I live, in Gothenburg on the south-west coast, only a few beaches have areas for nude people and you don't just bump into them; they want to keep to themselves and don't like to be stared at. You and your children don't have to be in those situations unless you want to. Nudism is a culture that is not forced upon anyone.
Any of you folk go to these euro beaches and see 300 pound naked people?
I know a young fit woman is beautiful but sorry I am not taking my kids to a beach where naked fat dudes and fat chicks can show my daughter their junk.
(I don’t actually have any kids...that I know of...but you people seem to be ignoring the pervert predators who can easily pretend to “not car ...[text shortened]... n the beach and they are naked so I am going to blast a dookie because after all...
It’s natural.
@torunn saidI think that's perfectly right. I think local culture should be respected and if the locals aren't acting weirded out by it, there's no reason to act all weird yourself. For some reason Americans love to hold their own questionable "morality" as perfect and they love to castigate others for their attitudes about it I say "live and let live" and if they aren't hurting you, then let them do what they want. Rather than insisting they follow your "morality", if you don't like it then you should leave and not force your "morality" on everyone else. I say "morality" because I think being a "karen" and telling others what they should do is the worst "morality" one can have.
At least here where I live, in Gothenburg on the south-west coast, only a few beaches have areas for nude people and you don't just bump into them; they want to keep to themselves and don't like to be stared at. You and your children don't have to be in those situations unless you want to. Nudism is a culture that is not forced upon anyone.
(I'm not talking to you, Torunn, I'm talking to the ones that think they're better for being closed-minded.)
@suzianne saidI was at a friend’s wedding reception with my then boyfriend, years before we started our own family. We shared a table with a couple and their new baby. The mum immediately began breast feeding. I was a bit worried about my bf’s reaction as he quickly disappeared to have a cigarette. He later said he’d felt a bit bemused by it all; he’d felt anxious about where he should look, what with the woman’s husband being present.
There is always the anonymous Karen who would prefer that you do this "someplace else".
@drewnogal saidA wedding reception is a perfect place this might come up, as you're away from home for a protracted period. Men's reactions are the most amusing, but in America especially, an alarming number of women will, as Petewxyz said, tell you to go do that in the restroom, or outside, or something similar. I don't know why this shaming of a new mom, by other women, is still tolerated in this country.
I was at a friend’s wedding reception with my then boyfriend, years before we started our own family. We shared a table with a couple and their new baby. The mum immediately began breast feeding. I was a bit worried about my bf’s reaction as he quickly disappeared to have a cigarette. He later said he’d felt a bit bemused by it all; he’d felt anxious about where he should look, what with the woman’s husband being present.
@suzianne saidStrange that a woman would feel like that and really sad as it can be a vulnerable time for a new mother. A friend of mine, a child mental health dietician in fact, allowed her son to continue breast feeding for 4 years! Just didn’t like to refuse him 😀though it was more of a comfort thing by that time.
A wedding reception is a perfect place this might come up, as you're away from home for a protracted period. Men's reactions are the most amusing, but in America especially, an alarming number of women will, as Petewxyz said, tell you to go do that in the restroom, or outside, or something similar. I don't know why this shaming of a new mom, by other women, is still tolerated in this country.
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Strange that a woman would feel like that and really sad as it can be a vulnerable time for a new mother. A friend of mine, a child mental health dietician in fact, allowed her son to continue breast feeding for 4 years! Just didn’t like to refuse him 😀though it was more of a comfort thing by that time.
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