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Originally posted by EladarAh, so you then agree that Texas is better than OU because we all know that Texas beat OU 45-35 on national tv. Can't have it both ways now, can you? Your arguement has more holes in it than a pin cushion.
We certainly know who won and who lost in the Tech game. Tech is better than Texas.
Originally posted by shortcircuitbob davie this morning on espn radio said he would much rather play texas than ou, that might be because he wasn't a very good coach at notre dame or that his argument is correct, they just have too many weapons to beat you with.
Ah, so you then agree that Texas is better than OU because we all know that Texas beat OU 45-35 on national tv. Can't have it both ways now, can you? Your arguement has more holes in it than a pin cushion.
Originally posted by CartersonBob couldn't beat Texas when he was at A&M, so why would he think he could beat them now? Texas' offense has more weapons than OU in that we are much deeper at receiver and now we have a running game to go with it. I would also prefer to have the healthy QB in Colt McCoy rather than the injured Sam Bradford. Defensively, OU "may" have a better secondary because of experience, but the D lines are even, and I would give Texas the nod at LB since OU's top two MLB's are done.
bob davie this morning on espn radio said he would much rather play texas than ou, that might be because he wasn't a very good coach at notre dame or that his argument is correct, they just have too many weapons to beat you with.
No one ever accused Bob Davie of being smart either.
Originally posted by shortcircuitvery true. so what happens if missouri somehow pull out a win over ou and florida, which i think will, beats alabama, then texas and florida play for the nc.
No one ever accused Bob Davie of being smart either.
i don't think chase daniel can pull off that upset but it could happen.
and don't forget about usc backing in somehow. at least we are pretty sure osu won't be in to take another thrashing this year.
but we need at least a +1 game because this bcs crap just doesn't get the job done fairly
colt mccoy just gave a nice interview on colin cowherd's show. sam bradford coming up in an hour. colt is not bitter at all about ou getting the nod it would seem, although he does feel they are the better team.
can't wait to see if colin pidgeonholes bradford, he tried with colt but the crafty qb wouldn't fall for it.
There is a possible nightmare scenario. Florida trails Texas by a fairly significant amount in the BCS. It is at least mathematically possible that Florida could beat Alabama, but that with an Oklahoma win, Texas and Oklahoma might play in the BCS Championship Game. This would be the ultimate travesty; maybe it would finally lead to the end of the BCS system (silver lining).
Originally posted by no1marauderI had thought of that, but I assumed that the victory over the #1 team would carry enough weight in the human polls as well as the computer polls that I think it is unlikely to happen. Although I don't think it will happen, the best chance is for Missouri to upset OU. In that scenario, would Texas Tech vault past OU as the second team from the Big 12 into the BCS, leaving OU to play in the cotton Bowl?
There is a possible nightmare scenario. Florida trails Texas by a fairly significant amount in the BCS. It is at least mathematically possible that Florida could beat Alabama, but that with an Oklahoma win, Texas and Oklahoma might play in the BCS Championship Game. This would be the ultimate travesty; maybe it would finally lead to the end of the BCS system (silver lining).
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Originally posted by shortcircuitThat would be an ironic result. It's also possible that an unimpressive win by Oklahoma might swing enough votes and hurt the Sooners enough in the computers to put Texas in the BCS Championship Game.
I had thought of that, but I assumed that the victory over the #1 team would carry enough weight in the human polls as well as the computer polls that I think it is unlikely to happen. Although I don't think it will happen, the best chance is for Missouri to upset OU. In that scenario, would Texas Tech vault past OU as the second team from the Big 12 into the BCS, leaving OU to play in the cotton Bowl?
Florida is way back in the computers; currently they're 6th in those rankings ridiculously behind Texas Tech and Utah besides the top 3. http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?poll=BCS
I'm not sure a win over Alabama gets them past Texas.
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Originally posted by whodeyYou are confusing two different sources here, apples and oranges.
So how is it that Alabama is #1 and Florida is favored to beat them?
The BCS is a joke!!!
Alabama is ranked ahead of Florida, based on past accomplishments on the football field for both Alabama and Florida. Florida has one loss to an unranked team, while Alabama is undefeated.
The oddsmakers set who the favorites are in wagering. They have NOTHING to do with raknings, standings or voting for either of the above. They simply establish betting lines. They are also frequently wrong (slightly less than half the time, sometimes more). In their eyes, and mine as well, Florida is the better team right now, hence they are favored to win.
All that said, it still could be said that the BCS is a bit of a joke, because they frequently don't get it right and they have the ability to be swayed significantly by the human voters.
Originally posted by whodeyBCS DECLARES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II
The BCS is a joke!!!
US Ranked 4th
After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.
"Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland, France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and the Netherlands. Their only losses came against the US and Russia; however considering their entire body of work--including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule--our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking."
Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated "The US only had two major victories-- Japan and Germany . The computer models, unlike humans, aren't influenced by head-to-head contests--they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event."
German Chancellor Adolph Hiter said "Yes, we lost to the US ; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks." Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn 'style points' to enhance Germany 's rankings. Hitler protested "Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces."
The French ranking has also come under scrutiny. The BCS commented " France had a single loss against Germany and following a preseason #1 ranking they only fell to #2."
Japan was ranked #3 with victories including Manchuria, Borneo and the Philippines .
People really start complaining about the BCS when their team gets rejected. If the numbers would have been the other way around, I really doubt shortcircuit would have any problems at all.
By the way, the US being ranked below Germany and Japan would only happen after the US lost to Viet Nam. Once you lose, you open the door in the system we use right now. That's been known for a very long time. It's been said long ago that if you are going to lose, lose early.
Earliest losing team to most current loss:
OU-> Texas-> Tech
Rankings:
OU->Texas->Tech
All three teams have the exact same record and have a head to head advantage over one other team in the list.
Originally posted by EladarYou haven't got a clue. I have been opposed to the BCS since its inception because they rarely get it right. You are such a genius though, try explaining this in the Big 12.
People really start complaining about the BCS when their team gets rejected. If the numbers would have been the other way around, I really doubt shortcircuit would have any problems at all.
By the way, the US being ranked below Germany and Japan would only happen after the US lost to Viet Nam. Once you lose, you open the door in the system we use right n ...[text shortened]... have the exact same record and have a head to head advantage over one other team in the list.
Texas has beaten both OU and Missouri and they have less losses than Missouri, the same number of losses as OU AND they beat OU on a neutral field by 10 points....yet they are not in the championship game. Texas Tech has only one loss, they beat Texas on a last second play at HOME after pissing away a 20 point lead early, yet you draw them like a magic wand to try and justify the travesty that has occurred. You can't explain it, you can't justify it, you just got lucky because of the dumb tie braek that even considered a ridiculous BCS scoring system.
BTW, how many National Championships have OU and Texas won since the inception of the BCS?
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Explain the Big 12? Texas lost to Tech. It is as simple as that.
If Texas played tonight due to the BCS you wouldn't be complaining about it. You'd be saying that I was all wrong if I complained about it.
BCS needs to go. We need a playoff. 8 teams would be great, 16 teams even better.
BTW, how many National Championships have OU and Texas won since the inception of the BCS?
One each.
How many Big 12 Championships does each team have?
Originally posted by EladarNever forget this.....
Explain the Big 12? Texas lost to Tech. It is as simple as that.
If Texas played tonight due to the BCS you wouldn't be complaining about it. You'd be saying that I was all wrong if I complained about it.
BCS needs to go. We need a playoff. 8 teams would be great, 16 teams even better.
[b]BTW, how many National Championships have OU and Texas wo ...[text shortened]... e inception of the BCS?
One each.
How many Big 12 Championships does each team have?[/b]
The ONLY reason that the state of Texas doesn't float off into the Gulf of Mexico is because Oklahoma sucks!!