Originally posted by PalynkaForget him, he doesn't like Sardines like you and I do.
Luck's racist postings started way before that incident. He kind of went completely overboard during the US electoral campaign and that word wasn't "as a term in some sort of debate". It was used in a purely derogatory manner and deliberately ignoring the moderator's warning was the last straw.
Bosse never used the word in any way except to show that it s ...[text shortened]... to engage in such actions again, he'll have a good chance of having his ban overturned.
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Originally posted by PalynkaI'm not sure where to go with this since you are in conflict with what Crowley said. If he was using that term as an insult to another user and was continually doing this in spite of many warnings against it, then I would agree with a ban.
Luck's racist postings started way before that incident. He kind of went completely overboard during the US electoral campaign and that word wasn't "as a term in some sort of debate". It was used in a purely derogatory manner and deliberately ignoring the moderator's warning was the last straw.
Bosse never used the word in any way except to show that it s ...[text shortened]... to engage in such actions again, he'll have a good chance of having his ban overturned.
Originally posted by leisurelyslothInsult to another user vs insult to race is different?
I'm not sure where to go with this since you are in conflict with what Crowley said. If he was using that term as an insult to another user and was continually doing this in spite of many warnings against it, then I would agree with a ban.
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Originally posted by PhlabibitIf you are habitually targeting a single individual for abuse of any type and they've made it clear that it's unwelcome, that should lead to consequences. I would say that there is a distinction, in that the lone individual is alone in trying to fight back against this. If you're targeting an entire race with your statements then there's an entire race to fight back against you.
Insult to another user vs insult to race is different?
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I'd have to see the comments to really know how to interpret them though, so it's tough to say. That's one of the problems with censoring debate--you start losing the ability to look at the extremist (or supposed extremist) statements and make judgment calls about them or arguments against them.
Originally posted by leisurelyslothDo you support posts where someone tries to prove a race of people are stupid based on text they get from white supremacy sites?
If you are habitually targeting a single individual for abuse of any type and they've made it clear that it's unwelcome, that should lead to consequences. I would say that there is a distinction, in that the lone individual is alone in trying to fight back against this. If you're targeting an entire race with your statements then there's an entire r ...[text shortened]... posed extremist) statements and make judgment calls about them or arguments against them.
Why bother doing that? What does it prove? Why insult a nation or peoples?
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Originally posted by PhlabibitIt sounds like a great opportunity for them to demonstrate their stupidity. Do you seriously think anyone would be convinced by that crap? In a free forum of ideas/debate they would get their head handed to them. It seems far better to me to defeat them in that manner, rather than censoring them and driving those ideas underground.
Do you support posts where someone tries to prove a race of people are stupid based on text they get from white supremacy sites?
Why bother doing that? What does it prove? Why insult a nation or peoples?
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Originally posted by leisurelyslothIt might seem strange how anyone could be convinced, but the fact remains that they exist and are the living proof that such crap has more power than you give it credit for.
It sounds like a great opportunity for them to demonstrate their stupidity. Do you seriously think anyone would be convinced by that crap? In a free forum of ideas/debate they would get their head handed to them. It seems far better to me to defeat them in that manner, rather than censoring them and driving those ideas underground.
But that's all irrelevant for the context of these forums and the particular case of Luck. Racially insulting material is in breach of the TOS that we all agreed with.