26 Apr 07
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Originally posted by EcstremeVenomDo you want art to be your career? Or do you just want to instantly become Demian Hirst - all rich and famous for calling dead stuff art?
by your art skills, and wanted to go somewhere with it, who would you want to contact? and how would you do it?
If it's the former, college is a good idea. If the latter, chop up some dead stuff and give it some pretentious title. Once you've pissed off enough people, you'll become famous and respected. Then you can sell your crappy dead animals for loads of money.
http://tinyurl.com/a4as8 - He didn't even chop the shark up, he just floated it in some formaldehyde. So if you chop some stuff up, you're in.
http://tinyurl.com/2zup4t - See? Chopping dead stuff up is cool.
26 Apr 07
what kind of "art skills"?
if it's illustration - try doing artist's impressions of site plans for architects for use in advertising.
If it's more arty (painterly) - meet up with a frame maker, get stuff framed, if they like it - they might put it on display for you to sell. Or maybe a small gallery exhibit?.
Get a port folio together first tho before you do either, and explain what type of stuff you do, for all I know you could be a tattoo artist or a con artist.
J
26 Apr 07
Originally posted by st00p1dfac3in reality those media whore type of artists probably do a huge amount of public relations lobbying for themselves. they might be crappy artists, but they still must have a burning hunger for marketing to get anywhere. so it's not like they didn't work on it, they just worked on a different aspect of it. nobody gets there without sacrifes, be it for art or for marketing.
Do you want art to be your career? Or do you just want to instantly become Demian Hirst - all rich and famous for calling dead stuff art?
If it's the former, college is a good idea. If the latter, chop up some dead stuff and give it some pretentious title. Once you've pissed off enough people, you'll become famous and respected. Then you can sell ...[text shortened]... e stuff up, you're in.
http://tinyurl.com/2zup4t - See? Chopping dead stuff up is cool.
a low-level art job is pretty straightforward to land though. go to any school which prepares you for it, and take on every little art job that comes your way. slowly it all builds up and at some point you'll be able to make a living. the assignments will be mostly very boring and unimaginative, so looking at it as a craft instead of art will definitely help.
you can do the same without art school, but the odds are you're light-years from the necessary technical level, no matter how good you think you are. mostly the problem is your skills are incredibly limited without proper education. so I strongly recommend art school for that, but it's most important part is that the school gets you connected with the trade & people in it. which is hard to do on your own.
26 Apr 07
Originally posted by wormwoodNice expansion and clarification of my point. I was leaving some of it up to the imagination. You're right about the craft vs. art.
in reality those media whore type of artists probably do a huge amount of public relations lobbying for themselves. they might be crappy artists, but they still must have a burning hunger for marketing to get anywhere. so it's not like they didn't work on it, they just worked on a different aspect of it. nobody gets there without sacrifes, be it for art or ...[text shortened]... e school gets you connected with the trade & people in it. which is hard to do on your own.
Too many people don't think of art as a reasonable career choice, but in reality art in some form is everywhere - posters, cards, advertising, video games, websites, television, etc. It's not "selling out" either, its just good sense - you can always continue with the "real art" while earning enough to pay your bills...
As to Mr. Hirst - I actually find some of his ideas interesting, I wouldn't put a dead cow in my living room, but it's interesting to hear him talk about his art. That, of course, doesn't detract from the fact that he's a shameless, self-promoting media whore.