Originally posted by slimjimYou really don't understand my point, and for ur information u can get papers in Mexico much more easier than here in US, and I am not a racist and it doesnt matter if ur wife its Mexican.
Dumb laws? They can't get papers because they are here illegally. Since you are from Mexico then tell me what the laws are of Mexico concerning illegal aliens and what does a person has to do to reside legally in Mexico. You will find out that they are more stringent than here in the US. And please don't throw that racial caca at me. Por que yo tengo esposa Mexicana, y yo sabe los leyes para vivir en Mexico.
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Originally posted by RagnorakNo, it doesn't make a difference. They should be deported and told to use the lawful channels as everybody elde has to, but a few thousand Irish is a dent compared to 15,000,000 Mexicans, Central Americans, and South Americans. Now we have gangs from El Salvador called MS 13 in just about every state and they are almost as bad as Al-Qaeda at disrupting everyday life-vicious killers who will shoot you as look at you....F**ing punks!!. I haven't heard about too many Irish gangs except the ones of the 1910s and 1920s competing with the Italians (Mafioso). In the meantine the monkey on Pennsylvania Avenue keeps smiling that chit-eating grin.....doing NOTHING!!!
So, anybody who drives at 31 in a 30 zone is a criminal?
Btw: I'm curious as to why nobody has brought up the problem of the thousands of illegal Irish in America? I suppose most irish are white people. I guess it makes a difference in some people's minds.
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P.S.: Yes, driving 31 in a 30 kph zone is breaking the law, no matter the pettyness of it. What if it's determined by investigation that a child was killed by that extra kph?
Originally posted by Talem16Are you an illegal alien? If so, then you only deserve basic rights: emergency care, shelter, and food...to keep you going until you are deported back to Mexico. You don't deserve to vote. You don't deserve yor have your children's education payed by me; you don't deserve healthcare subsidized by me (taxes). You don't deserve food stamps, once again, subsidized by who else?....ME!! Most of all, you don't deserve to take a job from an American citizen. Once the Illegals are taken care of, we can start working on our welfare system that tell Americans that if they don't get an education, they will be picking fruits, vegetables, and every other job that Illegals hold at this time. And don't say you can't get an education...where there's a will, there's a way.....sacrifice!
once again u are wrong Im Mexican because I'm from Mexico, and you are a U.S citinzen because you are from USA (United States of America) different to just America and I have all rights!!
Originally posted by XanthosNZGood question.....we could start where the Illegals work: Make it virtually impossible to work in the US unless you have tamper-proof identification. Fine employers a million dollars a "head" for employing an Illegal alien....I guarantee no employer in his right mind will hire an illegal. Soon, the Illegals who can't get jobs will slowly make their way back to Mexico and attempt to come here legally. If we ghave a labor shortage, let Mexicans into the US on a guest-worker program knowing that idf an American wants that certain job, they have to leave. Tough chit! Don't get me wrong, we need Mexican labor, but it has to be legal labor. If An American on welfare refuses a certain job, they lose welfare, and a LEGAL immigrant gets the job. After about 5 years, the only immigrants here will be legal; any illegals found will be deported...that' how you slowly get rid of the Illegal immigrant population. At the same time, we withdraw troops from Korea and Germany, and incorporate them on the southern and northern borders. The Constutution of the US specifically states that one of the uses of the military is to protect our borders......
So how is America going to cope with deporting 3% (according to some estimates) of its population?
Originally posted by Talem16Understand your point? What is your point then? It's alright to enter a country illegally and use that countries social services thus taking away resources from the people who are citizens of that country. If I choose to live in Mexico I have to deposit 5,000.00 US of my money into a Mexican bank. If I were to work in Mexico without a permit I would go to jail. Can't buy property there either. You lease it. If I bought a house in Mexico I would have to put it in my wife's name because only she would have the right to own property. I sure wouldn't get any social services either. They wouldn't give me official documents in English unless I paid for the translation of said documents. For your information a Mexican can get papers to come to the US. They have to go through the paperwok of customs which if you have a job and or a proffesional its not hard to get papers. it's the illegals who have the problem because they for the most part are illiterate and the dregs of society that Fox and the wealthy Mexicans want to send to the US so the US can care for them.
You really don't understand my point, and for ur information u can get papers in Mexico much more easier than here in US, and I am not a racist and it doesnt matter if ur wife its Mexican.
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Originally posted by chancremechanicYou went to a dictionary.
OK, genius, 🙄, the definition of illegal according to the Random House College dictionary is: not legal; contrary to existing statuses, regulations, etc.; unauthorized.......Syn: UNLAWFUL. I don't know about in OZ, but in the US, if you commit an UNLAWFUL act, you are considered a criminal.
Crime: an action or an instance of negligence that is d the border Illegally?...wait, don't answer that question.....I already know the answer...🙄
I went to law school.
Someone already raised the example of a speeding ticket. Speeding is unlawful, but you get a fine, not a criminal record.
Originally posted by chancremechanicIllegal immigrants will never need tamper proof ID in this country as long as you have people in this country that are willing to hire them to do menial tasks, such as painting and yardwork, in order to save money.
Good question.....we could start where the Illegals work: Make it virtually impossible to work in the US unless you have tamper-proof identification. Fine employers a million dollars a "head" for employing an Illegal alien....I guarantee no employer in his right mind will hire an illegal. Soon, the Illegals who can't get jobs will slowly make thei ...[text shortened]... US specifically states that one of the uses of the military is to protect our borders......
Only they are not called illegal immigrants, they are called day laborers.
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Originally posted by orfeoThat's because lawyers have ruined this country. A person who kills while driving intoxicated can post as little as 5,000 dollars bail and disappear...why, because of shiyster-lawyers. Speeding may not make a criminal, but speeding and killing a pedestrian certaily does if the fault lies with the driver. You're splitting hairs, which is what they teach you in law school. I'm not calling you a shister. You may be a decent, moral lawyer. Let me point something out counselor: A speeding ticket doesn't place the US in jeopardy in terms of national security, but illegal aliens do. When you speed, you are breaking the law, and thus theoretically a criminal, even a non-lawyer knows that. Criminals come in all sizes, shapes, and degrees, from a jaywalker to a serial-killer. The only diference between a mis-demeanor and a felony is subject to the law, but the act is criminal.......
You went to a dictionary.
I went to law school.
Someone already raised the example of a speeding ticket. Speeding is unlawful, but you get a fine, not a criminal record.
By the way, they don't use dictionaries in Law school?...no wonder the judicial system is F**ked-up!!!
Originally posted by Chessplaya548You have no clue! If the gov't put teeth into the illegal immigrant hiring act which would fine employers, from ordinary Joes hiring hedge trimmers to chicken plant owners, thousands to millions a head, I guarantee people would cut their own grass......fat-ass Americans need to do their own yard work anyway.....
Illegal immigrants will never need tamper proof ID in this country as long as you have people in this country that are willing to hire them to do menial tasks, such as painting and yardwork, in order to save money.
Only they are not called illegal immigrants, they are called day laborers.
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Originally posted by widgetPlay with youself, or let your PALS (Private A$$ Lickers) suck a grape out of where the sun doesn't shine. You have no altruism except to your wine afficianados, which to me is a stupid hobby...stupid is as stupid does.....go to Ogrish.com and get some ideas what drag-queens do when they want to call it quits.....just don't make a mess......
Give it a break, okay? Adopt a refugee... Play with the neighbours if you have to 😵
😳 There's no defence for your complete lack of altruism. Suicide is inherent in your objections.
Oh what the heck - Just DO IT !!!!