Apparantly this was recently brought up in a thread that was deleted and I missed it (just seeing a reference to it in another thread). I would have been interested in something about the correlation of intelligence and chess ability.
I used to believe that the better you were at chess the more intelligent you were. But my experience of meeting people who are far better than me at chess but not very successful academically, professionally and/or in business has lead me to believe the relationship of chess ability and intelligence certainly doesn't necessarily go hand in hand. I’m not saying that academic qualifications, professional status/achievement or business acumen necessarily equate to intelligence but having success in all 3 would I hope be a reasonable indicator of intelligence.
Does anyone have any views or even better know of any research on this subject (unlikely I know).
Originally posted by stevetoddFirst off having those things would mean you are smart. Intelligence is having knowledge of things being smart is using that knowledge. In other words you could be the most intelligent person in the world but be extremely dumb. I hope that helps you see how intelligence correlates to chess skill.
Apparantly this was recently brought up in a thread that was deleted and I missed it (just seeing a reference to it in another thread). I would have been interested in something about the correlation of intelligence and chess ability.
I used to believe that the better you were at chess the more intelligent you were. But my experience of meeting people es anyone have any views or even better know of any research on this subject (unlikely I know).
Originally posted by tomtom232To make a long story short. Practice makes perfect.
First off having those things would mean you are smart. Intelligence is having knowledge of things being smart is using that knowledge. In other words you could be the most intelligent person in the world but be extremely dumb. I hope that helps you see how intelligence correlates to chess skill.
Being smart in philosophy doesn't necessarily make a great chess player and most definitely would suck at being a good mechanic.
Originally posted by tomtom232i reckon my young daughter is pretty intelligent, but she talks too fast and gets a little arrogant with it at times. i tell her that intelligence, thought, knowledge and experience are the four parts that go together to make a smart person. i say that intelligence alone is like a big engine, it needs careful control and focussing or it'll put you in a spin and off the road. i warn her not to think that she is too smart, thats a big mistake because you dont know what you dont know.
First off having those things would mean you are smart. Intelligence is having knowledge of things being smart is using that knowledge. In other words you could be the most intelligent person in the world but be extremely dumb. I hope that helps you see how intelligence correlates to chess skill.
i reckon that chess is just a sort of mental chewing gum.
Originally posted by eamon oWell put, excellent perspective....recc'd.
i reckon my young daughter is pretty intelligent, but she talks too fast and gets a little arrogant with it at times. i tell her that intelligence, thought, knowledge and experience are the four parts that go together to make a smart person. i say that intelligence alone is like a big engine, it needs careful control and focussing or it'll put you in a spi ...[text shortened]... se you dont know what you dont know.
i reckon that chess is just a sort of mental chewing gum.
Originally posted by tomtom232makes sense, in relation to smarts, I'm as dumb as a brick.
First off having those things would mean you are smart. Intelligence is having knowledge of things being smart is using that knowledge. In other words you could be the most intelligent person in the world but be extremely dumb. I hope that helps you see how intelligence correlates to chess skill.
However, I have an extraordinary amount of intelligence...
For example, I rarely score less than a ninety on any test my teachers put in front of me, but I regularly struggle to make a B in classes because I never give any effort on homework.
There, my life's testimony, you RHP users are lucky...
you get to read that there segemnt for free, where others will have to buy my autobiography when I'm freakin' Tal in twenty years.
Originally posted by stevetoddI think Levitt wrote a book on this subject. He made a direct correlation between chess and IQ arguing IQ was reflected in potential chess rating rather than actual rating. He argued that 2000 was probably the maximum rating that someone with a 100 IQ could achieve and that ratings tended to plateau depending on IQ (for instance with a 140 IQ your rating would plateau at 2400).
Apparantly this was recently brought up in a thread that was deleted and I missed it (just seeing a reference to it in another thread). I would have been interested in something about the correlation of intelligence and chess ability.
I used to believe that the better you were at chess the more intelligent you were. But my experience of meeting people ...[text shortened]... es anyone have any views or even better know of any research on this subject (unlikely I know).
However, this was a potential rating based on actually studying the game seriously, under a coach, over a period of a few years.
Originally posted by demonseedthat is a load of crap! most GMs IQs are probably somewhere in the 120-140 range. But I do wish it were true because my IQ is in the range of 160-170 although it probably doesn't show in my typing. π
I think Levitt wrote a book on this subject. He made a direct correlation between chess and IQ arguing IQ was reflected in potential chess rating rather than actual rating. He argued that 2000 was probably the maximum rating that someone with a 100 IQ could achieve and that ratings tended to plateau depending on IQ (for instance with a 140 IQ your rating w ...[text shortened]... ting based on actually studying the game seriously, under a coach, over a period of a few years.
Originally posted by tomtom232yeah we can tell.. you accidently typed 160-170 instead of 16-17π
that is a load of crap! most GMs IQs are probably somewhere in the 120-140 range. But I do wish it were true because my IQ is in the range of 160-170 although it probably doesn't show in my typing. π