Originally posted by Ragnorakthat's nothing. I know a guy who moved from germany into u.s. when he was 2 years old. thirty years later he got caught smoking pot. nothing unusual there, but ten years later, when the big brother turned on paranoia machine, things started to happen. bad things: one day two well dressed man showed up on his door. "you'll have to come with us, sir." no reason was given, no identification nor bagde even when he asked for them. being a law abiding citizen, he agreed to go with them. well, not a citizen as it turned out, regardless of having lived in the states whole his life. paid his taxes and so on. he was then taken into a car with no markings, and transported to jail for questioning. during next few weeks he was shuffled around the country from prison to another, no reason given for anything but that he's not a citizen and has a record for that pot-bust as a youngster. he was not allowed to inform his wife and kids of his whereabouts, nor did his wife get any kind of notification. his wife tried to search for him, but was not given any information whatsoever. after few weeks, he was released and returned home. he never got any explanation or compensation of his treatment.
A friend of mine got locked up for overstaying his visa about 10 years ago. He didn't know at the time, and neither did the u.s. ....
Can you spell "Police State"?
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after a year or two, he was home alone when the well dressed guys came for him again. and like the first time, he was not allowed to inform his wife or anybody else. they just hand-cuffed him, drove to the airport and took him into plane with them. they flew into germany, un-cuffed him and told him he was free, but unable to return to u.s. soil. now he was alone in a foreign country, didn't know the language and had no money. and it was sunday, everything was closed. he managed to phone his wife and kids what had happened, and found a salvation army night shelter to sleep through the night. he tried to fight it legally, but never got to return to u.s.
this happened three years ago, and I have heard other similar stories since. I think "police state" might be an understatement.
Originally posted by wormwoodI believe there is more to the story than your friend has told you.....There are 11,000,000 illegal Mexicans, Arabs, and others in the US and nobody is hunting them down....you friend was probably a mole for Der Spiegel
that's nothing. I know a guy who moved from germany into u.s. when he was 2 years old. thirty years later he got caught smoking pot. nothing unusual there, but ten years later, when the big brother turned on paranoia machine, things started to happen. bad things: one day two well dressed man showed up on his door. "you'll have to come with us, sir." no reas ...[text shortened]... ve heard other similar stories since. I think "police state" might be an understatement.
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Originally posted by chancremechanicPerhaps if large corporations stopped hiring them?
I believe there is more to the story than your friend has told you.....There are 11,000,000 illegal Mexicans, Arabs, and others in the US and nobody is hunting them down....you friend was probably a mole for Der Spiegel
Also a legal resident/non-citizen is not the same as an overstayer or illegal immigrant. This guy likely paid tax, had a job and made no effort to stay out of sight. Why would he, he was in the country legally.
Originally posted by mokkoCan you put on a seminar regarding 'Shanks: Manufacture, Concealment & Utilization.'? I am also interested in garroting techniques... I'm thinking dental floss and pencils.
HEY! You're messing with a real bada$$ over here you know! A hardened criminal. I'd watch how you speak to me, I may just get connection while in the joint. 😛 Then we'll see who gets bent over whos knee.
I am sure that I am in good company requesting an in depth review of your experiences with prison sex. Links to pictures and video would be helpful... for educational purposes... of course.
Originally posted by XanthosNZEven if he had married a US citizen, he wouldn't automatically have become a US citizen. My sister has been living in the US and has been married to a US citizen for many years, but she is still a German citizen. I don't know much about the procedure of becoming a US citizen, but she would have to apply, she'd have to pass some sort of test about things like American history, and I would guess that she'd also have to pay something. And she'd have to give up her German citizenship.
That's assuming that he married a US citizen.
Originally posted by NordlysWhy would she have to give up her German citizenship? I know many people who have dual citizenship. Through marriage or otherwise to obtain citizenship here doesn't mean giving up citizenship elsewhere.
Even if he had married a US citizen, he wouldn't automatically have become a US citizen. My sister has been living in the US and has been married to a US citizen for many years, but she is still a German citizen. I don't know much about the procedure of becoming a US citizen, but she would have to apply, she'd have to pass some sort of test about things lik ...[text shortened]... ss that she'd also have to pay something. And she'd have to give up her German citizenship.
My best friens is from Portugal, her father came to Canada to work and eventually got citizenship, the mother and children came over and now they all have dual citizenship. Also having an American and Canadian citizenship is quite common here too. Is it that much different stateside?
Remind me before I go not to cross any American streets. I fear to think of what they would do to me. It's already an extremely serious crime here in Canada!
Originally posted by mokkoGermany only allows dual citizenship in special cases (for example, children can have dual citizenship, but they have to decide which one they want to keep when they turn 18), although I think the rules have changed somewhat, so maybe it would be possible now.
Why would she have to give up her German citizenship? I know many people who have dual citizenship. Through marriage or otherwise to obtain citizenship here doesn't mean giving up citizenship elsewhere.
Remind me before I go not to cross any American streets. I fear to think of what they would do to me. It's already an extremely serious crime here in Canada!
I didn't even know it was not allowed to cross the street whereever you want in some countries. How do you know where you are allowed to cross? Are you only allowed to cross at a corner?
Originally posted by stockenYeah, who would want to come here and have to work for the American dream when they can sit on their arse and have others pay for their "days off"......🙄
Which of course she wouldn't. Right? I mean german for norwegian. Understandable. But german for us-citizen? That's just a perverted trip down-hill. :
Originally posted by NordlysRed light mean stop...Green light means go.
I didn't even know it was not allowed to cross the street where ever you want in some countries. How do you know where you are allowed to cross? Are you only allowed to cross at a corner?
And yes...only at the corners....between the white lines. And ONLY when the light is green.
So I've come to learn.