Originally posted by Raven69Is this like the "I have a black friend" excuse? Oh, no, not even that. This is like "I have a white friend, who calls his black son 'N-----'", so that's ok".
It is only derogatory if you use it as such. I personally know a mother who has a retarded daughter and "retarded" is what she calls the condition.
Mmm...
Tell me, what was that hooplah were more than 20 disability groups who protested about the use of "retarded" in a film? All cry-babies?
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Originally posted by smw6869Don't know. But here's something along the lines that I've always found amusing:
Wonder how long it will take for "Special Needs Kids" to become derogatory.
GRANNY.
Back when the state of Pennsylvania established a daily lottery, one of the taglines read after every drawing was, 'Remember, a portion of the proceeds goes to helping Pennsylvania's senior citizens.'. Well, after a time, it was decided (by whom, I don't know), that the term 'senior citizens' was offensive. So, the new tagline became, 'Remember a portion of the proceeds goes to helping Pennsylvania's elderly citizens.'. Well, after a time, it seems that the beneficiaries of the proceeds didn't like being called 'elderly' as this seemed to have a negative connotation (as opposed to ' cranky old bastards', I suppose). So, the new tagline became, 'Remember, a portion of the proceeds goes to helping Pennsylvania's older citizens.' Well, after a time....
The latest tagline? 'Remember, a portion of the proceeds goes to helping Pennsyvlania's senior citizens.'
Talk about retarded.
Originally posted by PalynkaNo, it is nothing like that. That word has always been derogatory.
Is this like the "I have a black friend" excuse? Oh, no, not even that. This is like "I have a white friend, who calls his black son 'N-----'", so that's ok".
Mmm...
Tell me, what was that hooplah were more than 20 disability groups who protested about the use of "retarded" in a film? All cry-babies?
There will always be people who get offended at non-offencive words. And people who use non-offensive words with an intent of offending. It does not mean the words themselves are offensive. Political correctness is becoming completely ridiculous. It makes me feel like I have to walk around an eggshells because, God forbid, someone, somewhere, might get offended.
Originally posted by Raven69No-one has been saying the actual terms "retard" or "Down's Syndrome" is offensive. They can be used in an offensive context, though.
It does not mean the words themselves are offensive. Political correctness is becoming completely ridiculous. It makes me feel like I have to walk around an eggshells because, God forbid, someone, somewhere, might get offended.
Mike made a very offensive, generalised statement about the way Down's Syndrome sufferers would act around a mobile purveyor of ice-cream.
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Originally posted by CrowleyWhat? I made an "offensive" generalised statement.
No-one has been saying the actual terms "retard" or "Down's Syndrome" is offensive. They can be used in an offensive context, though.
Mike made a very offensive, generalised statement about the way Down's Syndrome sufferers would act around a mobile purveyor of ice-cream.
It wasn't offensive and it wasn't generalised.
My statement was "you are worse than downs in an ice-ceam queue!
That refers to retarded people in a queue. WTF is wrong with that reference?
Like you lot; CFT Palynka and Crowley - all in a queue acting like retards to take a bite at a TSM member.
Please tell me why it is offensive to say downs syndrome kids act retarded in a queue?? Please..? Cos that's what they do, whether you like it or not. It is not offensive, and it is not generalised. 100 % of downs kids in a queue would act retarded. That is not a generalisation at all. It is a solid based comment
Tell me where my original comment, that has now been used and abused, is "very offensive" as you put it! If you find being called a retard in this forum offensive God bless you. That would be a change in tune from you!
Originally posted by Raven69Well, I'm not very PC at all outside of work but I can understand why it's important to keep a modicum of respect around the workplace and to think before you speak around people at work.
There will always be people who get offended at non-offencive words. And people who use non-offensive words with an intent of offending. It does not mean the words themselves are offensive. Political correctness is becoming completely ridiculous. It makes me feel like I have to walk around an eggshells because, God forbid, someone, somewhere, might get offended.
Originally posted by Raven69I agree with that. The problem in my opinion is not the use of certain words, but that some people use disability as an insult, comparing someone they don't like or don't agree with to people with a (usually specific) disability, implying that having that disability makes you less valuable.
No, it is nothing like that. That word has always been derogatory.
There will always be people who get offended at non-offencive words. And people who use non-offensive words with an intent of offending. It does not mean the words themselves are offensive. Political correctness is becoming completely ridiculous. It makes me feel like I have to walk around an eggshells because, God forbid, someone, somewhere, might get offended.