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Legal vs. Illegal in correspondence chess

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Check this out: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3749

The summary given:

"Let's start by listing what types of computer use are generally legal in correspondence chess:

Using a game database to look up information;
Using a statistical tree program to combine games into a tree and give you won/loss percentages for specific moves;
Using endgame databases (Thompson, Nalimov, etc.) to look up endgame positions;
Using a computer program as a postal recorder, to keep track of moves played and time used;
Using a computer program to store your personal analysis

Now let's list the things you generally can not use a computer to do:

Consulting a playing program to have it suggest a move;
Using a playing program to double-check your intended move for errors."

Interesting how tablebases are in the middle of the 'legal' section, not quite the position taken here on RHP, if I understand correctly.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Interesting how tablebases are in the middle of the 'legal' section, not quite the position taken here on RHP, if I understand correctly.
How is this interesting?

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Originally posted by cadwah
How is this interesting?
What are you doing sober ? 😠

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Originally posted by cadwah
How is this interesting?
Compare to this thread:

http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=64684

especially page 3

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
What are you doing sober ? 😠
I'm not sober, I am in work.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Compare to this thread:

http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=64684

especially page 3
So what, other sites allow engine use, it doesn't matter, it is against the rules of this site to use end game tablebases.

I repeat, how is this interesting?

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Originally posted by cadwah
So what, other sites allow engine use, it doesn't matter, it is against the rules of this site to use end game tablebases.

I repeat, how is this interesting?
Obviously not of interest to you.... although why your reaction then?

How do you know that "it is against the rules of this site to use end game tablebases", other than opinions posted in the forum (to which I referred)? Certainly not from the current ToS. Perhaps a conctructive debate could be beneficial to all.

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Originally posted by cadwah
I'm not sober, I am in work.
so do some work then!😛

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Obviously not of interest to you.... although why your reaction then?

How do you know that "it is against the rules of this site to use end game tablebases", other than opinions posted in the forum (to which I referred)? Certainly not from the current ToS. Perhaps a conctructive debate could be beneficial to all.
Then maybe the debate or chess forum may have been better suited then, however this has been the subject of many threads, including the one you linked to, in that thread Gatecrasher who is a game mod for the site stated his case that end game tablebases were not allowed on this site.

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Originally posted by cadwah
I'm not sober, I am in work.
Ahh, i understand. It's a lovely springs day here in Dublin, and in true Irish fashion i'm doing what everyone does when they are working on a day like this.....Washing my car, and listening to tunes.....i love this country 😛

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Check this out: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3749

The summary given:

"Let's start by listing what types of computer use are generally legal in correspondence chess:

Using a game database to look up information;
Using a statistical tree program to combine games into a tree and give you won/loss percentages for specific moves;
the 'legal' section, not quite the position taken here on RHP, if I understand correctly.
Is it more interesting if you list the items this way as tablebases are now first on the list

Using endgame databases (Thompson, Nalimov, etc.) to look up endgame positions;
Using a game database to look up information;
Using a statistical tree program to combine games into a tree and give you won/loss percentages for specific moves;
Using a computer program as a postal recorder, to keep track of moves played and time used;
Using a computer program to store your personal analysis

and less interesting if you list this way as tablebases are now last on the list.

Using a game database to look up information;
Using a statistical tree program to combine games into a tree and give you won/loss percentages for specific moves;
Using a computer program as a postal recorder, to keep track of moves played and time used;
Using a computer program to store your personal analysis
Using endgame databases (Thompson, Nalimov, etc.) to look up endgame positions;

😛

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Originally posted by cadwah
Then maybe the debate or chess forum may have been better suited then, however this has been the subject of many threads, including the one you linked to, in that thread Gatecrasher who is a game mod for the site stated his case that end game tablebases were not allowed on this site.
You are right. I over-estimated the capabilities of some of the posters in the general forum.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
You are right. I over-estimated the capabilities of some of the posters in the general forum.
"Capabilities" was not the best word for you to use in the above sentence, maybe you should practice your putdowns a bit......or use the correct forums for their intended purpose 😛

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
"Capabilities" was not the best word for you to use in the above sentence, maybe you should practice your putdowns a bit......or use the correct forums for their intended purpose 😛
So, you have no opinion on the topic of this thread, is that what you are saying? And besides that, isn't the general forum the place to reach the largest population?

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
So, you have no opinion on the topic of this thread, is that what you are saying? And besides that, isn't the general forum the place to reach the largest population?
Yes i do have an opinion, i don't think people should play using books or databases atall. I have voiced that opinion before....In the Only Chess forum.


edit. It should be pointed out that alerting this thread would have it moved to the right forum...can you think why that might be ?