Originally posted by FMFi never use the thumbs option
For you, thumbing down Grampy Bobby or not thumbing down Grampy Bobby would be a real life example of Robbins' dichotomy in the OP (civilization v savagery, one or the other)?
Do you think they actually mean something?
Originally posted by GHOST HUNTERI am afraid he actually does think they have meaning. Perhaps they hold meaning for him? like some kind of beacon lighting the way through the passage of uncertainty, reaffirming his sense of self in this online community.
i never use the thumbs option
Do you think they actually mean something?
The interesting thing of course is that all kinds of immoral behavior are committed and justified by people with 'a crowd mentality' where they would not normally exhibit such behavior on their own. One only need to look at football crowds to appreciate the fact. They become like mindless drones taking on the collective consciousness of the crowd and thrusting aside all reason.
Originally posted by Captain StrangeThe statement, 'its a wretched pupil that does not surpass his master', is actually attributed to Leonardo Da Vinci, that other great arteest of noble fame. See how I edify you with my presence? The brothers and I are one, we live and we love and no amount of darkness can overcome even a little light. As long as I can love therefore, I live! and you need have no fear for my safety!
Robbie please do not attempt to surpass your JW masters (or even to try and become their equal.)
You will be the wretched creature, disfellowshipped and cast into darkness.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are talking nonsense. The thumbing is done after the post has been made, so how can the post be "immoral", having been made with a "crowd mentality"?
I am afraid he actually does think they have meaning. Perhaps they hold meaning for him? like some kind of beacon lighting the way through the passage of uncertainty, reaffirming his sense of self in this online community.
The interesting thing of course is that all kinds of immoral behavior are committed and justified by people with 'a crowd m ...[text shortened]... dless drones taking on the collective consciousness of the crowd and thrusting aside all reason.
I mean really, what is this bollox you are spouting!?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAre you going to surpass Taze Russell?
The statement, 'its a wretched pupil that does not surpass his master', is actually attributed to Leonardo Da Vinci, that other great arteest of noble fame. See how I edify you with my presence? The brothers and I are one, we live and we love and no amount of darkness can overcome even a little light. As long as I can love therefore, I live! and you need have no fear for my safety!
Originally posted by divegeesterNot pretending they do not mean anything, but to me anonymous thumbs or down does not seem important. but if you think people care that is you"re choice.
I use the option frequently if I feel the content of the post is deserving, one way or the other.
Why pretend they don't mean anything, when they obviously do mean something?
Someone replying directly to a post is much better than hiding behind a thumb don"t you think?
i have noticed grampy Bobby and robbie carrobie, seem to amass lots of the dreaded thumbs down which you hold in such high value, to me it seems to have nothing to do with the current post but more of a vendetta. for previous posts.
that"s why i think the thumbs system is nothing to be exited about
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Originally posted by GHOST HUNTERI agree that responding to a post with a post is a much better way to state one's opinion and I don't hold thumbs in "high value" as you suggest and as I said so in this forum earlier today. However, they do mean something and give an indication of what a segment of the readers here are thinking. Whether posters allow the number of thumbs to influence their opinion is up to them but clearly a significant number do at least wish to express themselves in this way.
Not pretending they do not mean anything, but to me anonymous thumbs or down does not seem important. but if you think people care that is you"re choice.
Someone replying directly to a post is much better than hiding behind a thumb don"t you think?
i have noticed grampy Bobby and robbie carrobie, seem to amass lots of the dreaded thumbs down which you ...[text shortened]... endetta. for previous posts.
that"s why i think the thumbs system is nothing to be exited about
Originally posted by GHOST HUNTERThumbs are like clowns, bring on the clowns, I love the clowns! 😵
Not pretending they do not mean anything, but to me anonymous thumbs or down does not seem important. but if you think people care that is you"re choice.
Someone replying directly to a post is much better than hiding behind a thumb don"t you think?
i have noticed grampy Bobby and robbie carrobie, seem to amass lots of the dreaded thumbs down which you ...[text shortened]... endetta. for previous posts.
that"s why i think the thumbs system is nothing to be exited about
Anyway get yourself over to the London chess classic, just has two awesome tie breaks and an Armageddon match in which Anish Giri lost to Maxime Legrave, final with Magnus Carlsen in 30 minutes, grab a beer, should be awesome 😀
"The original meanings of "thumbs up" and "thumbs down"
"Juvenal refers to the Roman custom of spectators’ voting on the fate of wounded gladiators with their thumbs. You may think a gladiator would appreciate the crowd’s “thumbs up” (verso pollice), but exactly the opposite is true. Where we give thumbs up as a sign of approval, it meant death to its Roman recipient; much to the crowd’s delight."
"These men once were horn-blowers and attendants
At every municipal arena, known as trumpeters in every village.
Now they present their own spectacles, and, to win applause,
Kill whomever the mob gives the “thumbs up”.
Decimus Junius Juvenalis; a.k.a. Juvenal
(c. 55-140 A.D.), "Third Satire"
"Thumbs down, signified “swords down,” which meant the loser was worth more to them alive than dead, and he was spared apparently so he could make up for his disgrace the next time he appeared in the arena. Keep this in mind the next time you give someone the “thumbs up” sign.
Our reverse interpretation of this custom apparently was the result of the work of the French artist Léon Gérôme who apparently understood the Latin verso ("turned" ) to mean "turned down", and therefore in his painting Pollice Verso (1873), he presents the death sentence with the thumbs-down gesture. The painting became so popular that Gérôme’s mistake became the accepted interpretation and it is unlikely that it will ever be changed back to the meaning that it had with the Romans. Scholars before Gérôme gave support to the view that “thumbs down” among the Romans, meant the hapless gladiator was to be spared, not slain.
The gesture meant "Throw your sword down". A 1601 translation of Pliny equates the gesture with "assent" or "favor", and John Dryden's 1693 version of Juvenal's Satires gives the thumb being bent back, not down, as the death signal. Private investors spent enormous sums staging gladiatorial shows, despite attempts by various Roman governments to impose limits. Prisoners of war and slaves were sent to gladiatorial academies for training and then they were hired out for various public and private occasions. The Arena Shows were often sponsored by various Roman governments and private businesses to keep the Roman mobs entertained.
The shows sponsored by the governments and put on at public expense were initially held at the Circus Maximus, Rome's principal stadium for chariot racing. Later, the gladiators were moved into large amphitheaters, and posters that listed the combatants' names and successes from their past achievements. After a few preliminary spectacles, the gladiators got down to serious business. Whenever a combatant was seriously wounded, the presiding judge, or referee, was called upon to determine whether the man should live or die, depending on how well he had put up a fight.
The judge usually based his decision on the desires expressed by the mobs in the stadium; whether they would cheer, applaud, and give the thumbs down if they liked the man, who was then carried away to be treated for his wounds. If, on the other hand, they gave him the silent thumbs-up treatment, his opponent was given the signal to execute the mortal blow. The corpse was then dragged off like a dead animal." [Based on information from It's Greek To Me! by Michael Macrone and Fabulous Fallacies by Tad Tuleja] (italics mine) http://wordinfo.info/unit/3735/ip:1/il:K